Sharpened = New in box?

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If a knife has been sharpened can it still be offered as "new - unused - and in the box" without making mention of the fact that it has been sharpened? Does it matter if it is a Cold Steel or a Busse?
 
It would seem to me that something like that would be better described as "Like New in Box" or "In excellent condition" Depending on the quality of your sharpening job. I don't mean whether or not the knife is sharp, I mean: How much blade steel have you removed? Have you changed the bevel of the edge? NIB is all about the knife being in original factory condition. If it's not like it was when you received it new, then it's not NIB.
 
Knives that have been sharpened are usually worth much less than ones that are "new in box" because the blade shape has been altered, if only slightly. "New in box" should technically mean unused and untarnished in any way, but some people use the term liberally.
 
Although I received many "butter knife" dull knives that were in fact New In Box, I'd agree with the consensus here. I mean realistically, if it's been opened it's not NIB, but sharpening is definitely not new.
 
A sharpened knife is not NIB. A knife that was sharpened well might go as LNIB, but mention should still be made that the knife has been sharpened. There are some technical/picky points that we will all disagree on, but I don't think this is one of them.
 
Even if the knife was sharpened really, really well -- I mean, the edge on it is so professional and even and superb, the knife is ten times cooler after sharpening that it was to start with -- it's still not "new in box." It's been altered by someone other than the manufacturer. A knife that is described as "new in box" carries with it the understanding that it is in the precise condition it was in when it left the factory or shop where it was born.
 
Not according to the National Knife Collector's Association which sets the standards in this area.

New-In-Box means it must be in Mint condition and be exactly as received from the manufacturer/maker, in the original box with all original accessories, sheath, etc.

Mint means absolutely new, exactly as shipped from the factory/maker... never sharpened, never used. It may be lightly oiled.

Near mint permits the blade to be "lightly honed".

If it's been sharpened, the best you can call it is near mint.
 
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