Sharpened police swedge

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The swedge of the police seems like it is well...intended to be sharpened. It says to "reduce weight" but I do not really buy that lol;)
 
You might check the knife laws in your state. I believe a doule-edged knife is considered a dirk, which is illegal in at least some states. Lawmakers in Texas and Oklahoma in their infinite wisdom never defined what dirk, dagger, Bowie, etc mean in their laws. It then comes down to a policeman's discretion if your knife is legal or not.
 
Beleive it or not, fact is swedges can definitely reduce mass enough to be felt in hand with the balance and distribution.
 
The swedge can be sharpened, just as it could on the original Worker. The problem with that, as has almost been stated, is that a sharpened swedge becomes a false edge, i.e. an edge that does not run the entire length of the blade. Having a false edge is not the same as being double-edged, but try explaining that to an arresting officer. It's hard enough trying to convince him that the unsharpened swedge doesn't make it double-edged. If such legalities aren't a concern where you live, sharpen away. Personally, I find the negatives outweigh the positives.
 
rycen said:
Nope.
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Gotcha. I don't own a Police model so I wasn't sure... but I know my Worker Sprint would have about 1/2" of exposed sharpened swedge when closed. That is if it were sharpened for the full length of the swedge. Wouldn't be able to handle that without a sheath IMO, and at that point I'd probably just get a small fixed blade instead.
 
SpeedHoles said:
Gotcha. I don't own a Police model so I wasn't sure... but I know my Worker Sprint would have about 1/2" of exposed sharpened swedge when closed. That is if it were sharpened for the full length of the swedge. Wouldn't be able to handle that without a sheath IMO, and at that point I'd probably just get a small fixed blade instead.
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They made a change for the new tooling on the G-10 Worker. The original closes deeper, covering the entire swedge within the handle. I believe they even came factory sharpened for a brief period.

Edit to add: Open and closed pix of a Police Model. Swedge is entirely covered by the handle when closed.



 
Awesome Police model you have there! I've always really liked the feel of the titanium in the hand on those. Something about the way it's finished...
 
The swedge on the original Police model can indeed be sharpened and carried safely with the blade folded. I had it done on one of mine but it resulted in a very thin tip. The tips on the all-steel Police model are already a bit delicate and sharpening the swedge made mine more so. So far I haven't damaged it, but I do have some regret that it was done. Fortunately I have several of this model.
 
yablanowitz said:
a sharpened swedge becomes a false edge
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That term "false edge" seems to have no standard definition. I would say that an unsharpened swedge is a false edge, because it has no edge. I.e., its false. It looks like an edge but its not. Others will agree with you, saying that a false edge is not really false, but does have an edge. This has gone back at least 15 years on BF, and probably a lot longer.

Whatever we call it, I prefer my swedges to be un-sharp. :thumbup:
 
yablanowitz said:
They made a change for the new tooling on the G-10 Worker. The original closes deeper, covering the entire swedge within the handle. I believe they even came factory sharpened for a brief period.

Edit to add: Open and closed pix of a Police Model. Swedge is entirely covered by the handle when closed.



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Is that a sprint run? Ti and ats-34 seems like quite the hefty budget item;)
 
Sal Glesser said:
We did 2 runs of Titanium Police models. the first was a 500 pc run of a fully serrated version, made for a knife catalog company.

The 2nd run was also 500, but a combination -plain/serrated edge.

Retail at the time was $250.

The catalog company sold out fairly quickly as they offered the model for $125. This also killed the prospect of selling them at a higher price, which killed the model.

We tried the 2nd run at the "proper" retail and they would not sell due to the earlier model being offered so inexpensively. Then they were dropped.

sal
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Ouoted from this thread

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...Police-Model-(Titanium)?p=5115459#post5115459
 
powernoodle said:
That term "false edge" seems to have no standard definition. I would say that an unsharpened swedge is a false edge, because it has no edge. I.e., its false. It looks like an edge but its not. Others will agree with you, saying that a false edge is not really false, but does have an edge. This has gone back at least 15 years on BF, and probably a lot longer.

Whatever we call it, I prefer my swedges to be un-sharp. :thumbup:
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It seems that A.G. Russell and I both learned the meaning of the term in the days before the internet, when it did have a standard definition. These days, people think lanyards and fobs are the same thing, and use the terms interchangeably, which is how clear definitions get lost.
 
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