Sharpening an Entrek

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Recently I purchased an Entrek Elk from a fellow forumite, and it's a great knife. However, I'm having trouble getting a good edge on it. I've tried taking the shoulder back using the 30 degree setting on the sharpmaker, and then moving up to the 40 degree setting, and have made progress, but can't seem to get a good shaving edge on it. If anyone has any tips they'd be appreciated, but keep in mind that currently I only have access to files, sandpaper, dremel tools, and a Sharpmaker and A.G. Russel field sharpener. Thanks in advance.

Lagarto
 
I just bought a Force Recon myself, and before I put the Lansky to it, I'd also like to know what the right angle for sharpening is. By looking at the edge, it does look like it could be a 30° angle, but I suspect it's a 25°, as most combat/survival edges (in my limited experience) are sharpened at that angle. If any one could give us some help here, that would be greatly appreciate. Hate changing the geometry of a blade by shaving it at the wrong angle! Thanks in advance.
 
lagarto said:
I've tried taking the shoulder back using the 30 degree setting on the sharpmaker, and then moving up to the 40 degree setting, and have made progress, but can't seem to get a good shaving edge on it.
Is it sharp at the 30 before you move up to the 40, can you slice paper with it?

lupara said:
I just bought a Force Recon myself, and before I put the Lansky to it, I'd also like to know what the right angle for sharpening is.
What do you plan on doing with it?

-Cliff
 
Cliff - the Force Recon is a combat knife, but as a civilian, I don't plan to use it for that purpose! Although survival knifes are most likely better suited than combat knives for long treks in the outdoors or extended kayak trips through national parks, I nevertheless plan to bring the FR along as a general all purpose outdoor knife. It's just too nice to leave at home. So - that's what I intend to do with it.

In any event, I wrote to Mr. Ennis and asked his advice re sharpening. He responded curtiously and extremely quickly, and pointed out a very important fact: Entrek knifes have a convex edge, and as a result of this, sharpening them back into a v-type edge necessarly leads to shaving off quite some material in order to achieve this. I will therefore keep the original goemetry of the blade, and will consequently resort to stropping it.

As I told Mr. Ennis, I've had alot of success sharpening Busses with the strop (at the least the convex edge of the Busse), but have had no luck whatsoever with the likes of VG-10 on Fallknivens. INFI is an interesting metal as far as it seems to have a more "rubber" like quality which probably lends itself better to stropping than the extremely hard, almost rigid edge of the Fallknivens.

I'm very interested to see how 440C will react to stropping. At 57-58 RC, I assume that this will be quite possible.

Finally, I'm still in communication with Mr. Ennis, and will post any other interesting tips which I may get from him in connection with sharpening the convex edge of the Entrek knives.

By the way - the FR is one hell of a knife. Not only does it have a mesmerising design, but as is now notorious for Entrek knives, it just has the solid quality and feel of a knife you can rely on. I'm absolutely delighted with it.
 
lupara said:
... as a general all purpose outdoor knife.
A 15/20 dual bevel is enough for pretty much the hardest of work outside of extremely thick heavy bone and/or rock. If you are not pounding through knots you can go 10/15.

Entrek knifes have a convex edge, and as a result of this, sharpening them back into a v-type edge necessarly leads to shaving off quite some material in order to achieve this.
This isn't necessary, just apply a micro-bevel at the correct angle, you don't need to reshape the entire edge just sharpen the final extension. You can use a marker to determine the exact angle for the micro bevel, just match the existing curvature in the last 1/32" or less.

-Cliff
 
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