Sharpening? Hmmmmm

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had a buddy get me back into knives, and so far i've purchased 3 ZT knives. 0561, 0801, 0350. Love them all, but I haven't a clue on how to properly sharpen them. What stones do I use? Would I use different stones for Elmax steel than I would S30V steel?
Any help and advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Jon
 
Thanks for asking that. I am a newbie and was also wondering if there was a different material for different metals.
 
I guess the first question one should ask is what are you using now to sharpen your knife?

Higher wear resistant steels (usually those with more vanadium) are more popular these days for their "edge retention" they generally require:

- Either more time in sharpening on conventional stones (this is sometimes seen as harder to sharpen)
- Better quality sharpening media.

Edge retention is misused IMO on the forums a lot in stead of wear resistance. More can be read here Sandvik knife steel knowledge

There are a few things one can do:

- Buy a better quality sharpening media such as diamond stones (diamond stones can sharpen most of everything from conventional steels to the high wear resistant steels such as K390 or S110V),
- Sharpen to lower angles and apply microbevels.
- Do both

Bohler actually this issue in their online FAQ:

KNIFEFREQUENTLY_ASKED_QUESTIONS1.pdf

"What stainless can I easily sharpen in the field?
Of course that depends on your experience, but N690 and N680 are both conventional steels that respond to traditional sharpening techniques. M390 and ELMAX as high carbon and vanadium steels require more advanced sharpening tools and skills."

The above is something I am experiencing more and more with people that are not knife snobs. They love S30V when it is sharp, but cant get it sharp on the old $2 stone. You can get it sharp, but it requires much more skill and understanding of angles.

This is a good article to read IMO that covers a few aspects.

Sharpening How To.
 
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If you're serious about keeping quality knives very sharp, get an Edge-Pro.

www.edgeproinc.com.

Though it may seem a bit pricey, when you consider the cost of a set of decent water stones, it's actually quite economical.
 
If you're serious about keeping quality knives very sharp, get an Edge-Pro.

www.edgeproinc.com.

Though it may seem a bit pricey, when you consider the cost of a set of decent water stones, it's actually quite economical.

:thumbup: I love the edge pro, and it has a learning curve , but once you overcome that curve the level of sharpness you can achieve is only limited to the time you want to spend on the knife. I have sharpened elmax and s30v and neither one of them gave me any problems, Actually I've sharpened quite a few steels now s90v, M390, cpm-m4 ,Zdp-189, on the edge pro, and the only steel I had a real time sharpening was the ZDP-189.
 
The only steel that gave me a problem on the EP was Crucible's CPM Rex 121, at HRC 70. but once I got it through my rather thick head that you use diamond sharpeners ONLY on 121, the problem went away.:p
 
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