sharpening question

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I've heard some people use sand paper of varying grits to sharpen I've heard others use it to strop...which is it? another question I have is when sharpening a scandi grindyour supposed to lay the bevel flat against the stone..after that is there a particular pattern to follow? Thanks sorry for the dumb questions
 
I've heard some people use sand paper of varying grits to sharpen I've heard others use it to strop...which is it? another question I have is when sharpening a scandi grindyour supposed to lay the bevel flat against the stone..after that is there a particular pattern to follow? Thanks sorry for the dumb questions

This may help. It appears that I sharpen my knives this way and never knew it had a name untill now. If you have any more questions, fire away.
http://ragweedforge.com/scanshrp.html
 
When an edge is really banged up, I use my coarsest stone and a scrubbing, circular motion to grind it into shape. When it's ready for actual sharpening, I use straight strokes for control, and to keep the tiny scratches perpendicular to the edge. Edge-leading or trailing is one controversy I've not seen resolved... both work fine in my experience. I will say, it makes sense to go edge-trailing so the stone scrapes waste material away from the blade instead of pushing bits back into it, but I suspect the difference is pretty small.

Use low grit to remove a lot of steel, high grit to polish it keen. If your edge is reasonably well-beveled, which I suspect it is on your knives, 400-grit is on the coarse side (it will leave a sharp edge, no question). Likely, you could start (and end) with 600 or 800. You can go as high as you want from there. 1000 or 1200 grit wet/dry paper leaves a pretty darn fine edge; in fact, a 1200-grit on the blade as a whole would give a very smooth satin finish, although not a mirror (unless buffed*).

Buy name-brand sandpaper (black 3M paper is widely available in my neck of the woods in grits from 320-800, and is very clean and consistent.) The cheap stuff is cheap for a reason... uneven grit size that leaves ugly scratches, and it wears out fast. I find very little difference in the way paper cuts when wet or dry, but just a couple drops of water helps the paper (actually, the grit on it) last longer (keeps the steel bits from clogging it up, just as light oil keeps a natural stone clean).

Rigid backing (glass) and a stiff wrist to keep a "standard" edge straight, soft back (mousepad) to convex the edge just a bit.

RR, if I remember right you have two Clippers... sharpen one each way and see which technique/result is best for you. Either way you can get 'em good and sharp. A soft backing/slightly convex edge may end up a little less sharp, but may stay that way a little longer. Don't get too caught up in a micron of difference; some people (who only use their knives on tubes of newsprint and soda bottles :jerkit:) are ridiculously anal about this. 99.999% of the time, shaving sharp is plenty good.

* if you have a buffer, get your knife as sharp as you can with the stones you've got, then buff the edge. I suspect it will be very slightly convexed, but it will sure be clean. Be aware, buffers are dangerous. Don't be scared, just be careful.

P.S. these people who get bent out of shape about stones going concave must sharpen a helluva lotta knives. My arkansas stones are still pretty darn flat after many years. I have no trouble keeping a straight micro-bevel with them. Water-stones are a different story, they're meant to wear... the "slurry" produced by fine stone particles and water polishes the edge; many knowledgable people say there's no finer edge around. Water stones go up to very fine grits, I think 2000? High-end katanas are mirror-polished this way, for instance.

I seriously doubt you're going to noticeably concave a typical commercial sharpening stone or rod with normal use. If this stone-wear thing really worries you, use diamonds or ceramics. The same techniques apply.

Did I mention, many ways to sharpen work well, and can allow you to develop a very sharp edge.
 
If its convex use a mouse pad with various degrees of wet and dry at home, but in the field use your trousers like a strop with or without wet and dry. However if a its a form of flat grind use wet stones, and ceramics, to finish it of with use a strop;)
 
realistically, I can't imagine any non-lab use that would require much more then an 8000 grit polish. For waterstones, I think that Norton is the best bang for a buck. I use one of their 220 grit stones if I'm going to reset bevels and a 1000/8000 combo stone for sharpening.

And best yet, the cost per stone is less than 10% of that 30,000 grit monster above!

Some good wet/dry sandpaper will do the job just as well though. and have the benefit of being portable and lightweight.
 
Lets see....to get up to 220 grit takes me 4 steps..
Now if I wanted to get up to 30,000 grit?

(Im not sure I have a life span long enough.)
 
Lets see....to get up to 220 grit takes me 4 steps..
Now if I wanted to get up to 30,000 grit?

(Im not sure I have a life span long enough.)

sure, but you're talking about grinding out a knife and not sharpening, right? theres no way I could imagine trying to sharpen an edge on a 60 grit belt!
 
...theres no way I could imagine trying to sharpen an edge on a 60 grit belt!

They get real toothy :D Not that I've ever done this to a piece of scrap steel just to see what would happen :o

EDIT: OK, OK, it was really an 80-grit belt...
 
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