Sharpening steel and axe blades

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Thanks to my dad's experience working in a butcher shop back in the 1930's, where he learned the art of knife sharpening with stones, hones, steels and strops and being lucky enough to impart upon me at a young age some of that knowledge and skill he gleaned, and not having ever seen him put a stone to an axe, it finally dawned on me that he probably used a sharpening steel on his axes. I have not tried it there myself ... yet, although I use a steel on my kitchen and steak knives, most of them have not had a stone or hone put to them in 20 years!. But the next time the axe needs something done to the edge I am going to try a steel on it. From what I read here in the axe, knife and sharpening forums it seems like stones and hones are the first rather than the last or next to last method of improving the sharp edge on our knives and axes. After thinking about it, I wonder why we want to remove material from our tools first when aligning the microscopic teeth on our edges with a sharpening steel will do what is needed without removing that valuable hardened material we pay dearly for on the edge of our tools?

My curiosity has gotten the best of me wondering if any of you modern day Paul Bunyan's are utilizing a sharpening steel on your axe edges? Or will I be the Lone Ranger?
 
I've used a steel on an axe many times. It's something I'll do as the last step before hanging an axe. I'll file, hone and fine hone first, then give it just a few strokes on the steel for that hair poppin' sharpness. Once hung I'll just sharpen with file and hone. But with a handle-free axe in hand steeling is easy.
 
I've used a steel on an axe many times. It's something I'll do as the last step before hanging an axe. I'll file, hone and fine hone first, then give it just a few strokes on the steel for that hair poppin' sharpness. Once hung I'll just sharpen with file and hone. But with a handle-free axe in hand steeling is easy.
I am glad to hear that you have used a steel on the axe, it adds some credence to what has puzzled me about what my father did to sharpen his axe. I can see where the handle will add an awkwardness to using the steel. I have always held the steel in my left hand and manipulated the knife and now I wonder when using it on the axe if the bit should be in my left hand and manipulate the steel? I will give that a try the next time I need to touch up an edge and see what happens.

It is a rarity if I read anything here on the Blade Forum about using a sharpening steel and I can't help but wonder if the use of the steel is being lost to time. It is so easy and quick especially when in the middle of a project, two or three quick strokes on the steel and back to work without removing edge metal.
 
I have always held the steel in my left hand and manipulated the knife and now I wonder when using it on the axe if the bit should be in my left hand and manipulate the steel? I will give that a try the next time I need to touch up an edge and see what happens.

It is a rarity if I read anything here on the Blade Forum about using a sharpening steel and I can't help but wonder if the use of the steel is being lost to time. It is so easy and quick especially when in the middle of a project, two or three quick strokes on the steel and back to work without removing edge metal.

Yes, switching hands and pulling the steel across the tool is something I do.

I agree that steels seem to be largely missing on Bladeforums. Steels have always had their place in the kitchen and are great for re-aligning that edge. But I think that damage to an impact tool typically requires more work than a steel can give. You couldn't maintain an axe with just a steel. You need to remove some metal not just re-align it.
 
It is a rarity if I read anything here on the Blade Forum about using a sharpening steel and I can't help but wonder if the use of the steel is being lost to time.
When I was a little kid my dad's brother, my uncle Norm, used to come up from New Hampshire and bring his wife to stay with us for a week ever year. And he would put the steel to work in the kitchen. I was intrigued and used to watch him and talk with him about it. He taught me about a wire edge when I think I was 5 or 6. And other sharpening goals and what to look for.
It's cool you bring the steel up for discussion. I've always been fascinated with them and use them fairly frequently in the kitchen. But I have a different way to finish my axes with diamond stones and then stropping. I don't always use a micro bevel so a steel can't always work on an axe. But I'll try it out!
I think the micro bevel, or lack of it, may be the reason folks don't use a steel on the axe.
After all you're "supposed" to have a convex shape right to the cutting edge for toughness and this would be hard(er) to achieve with a steel imo.
 
steels don't actually sharpen ... they just realign the edge and allow say a butcher or a chef to use his knife a bit longer before sharpening ...

you can get ceramic "steels" honing rods that can actually sharpen but I've never heard of anyone using them on an axe ... they are usually a finer grit hone ...

grandpa and dad always used files and one old puck stone to sharpen axes ... I use a puck stone myself Baryonyx Artic Fox puck stone has been a good stone for me.
 
Here I have two kinds of steels so I don't know exactly which one the topic refers to - though I do have my suspicions now but wouldn't want to presume, you know. One, the polished and hardened. I use it frequently and am familiar. The others I've got are ribbed in the length and I know the butcher who's got his modern, non-vintage, with a diamond grit embedded surface.
 
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I think your presumption is correct. Although I don't want to presume your presumption... Haha. Pretty sure he's referring to the older ones with parallel ribs.
 
Square_peg: I can see where the impact of the axe would cause more damage than the sharpening steel could conquer. As I sit here pondering the tree felling of my much younger days I can recall a dozen or so big, old, rotten and hollowed out box elder trees on the property line between dad's house and the little old lady's house to the north and these trees paralleled the wide driveway. After a storm went through and brought one of these monsters down dad and Agnes decided they should all come down. The box elders were not alone in their demise as there were three Chinese elm trees along the south property line that were suffering from dutch elm disease that were to be downed, too. Dad had inherited an old 1/2 man crosscut saw that had a saw handle on one end and a detachable handle on the other. We never had more than one tree on the ground at a time and I learned a lot that summer as my days were spent cutting up the trees into manageable pieces to be hauled to my great uncle Benjamin's house where they were not only used to heat their home, but cook with as well. As a side note Benjamin never had a tractor on his 140 acre farm, just Dolly and Daisy his trusty old Belgian horses that were full sisters and two years apart in age. As I recall the double bit axe that I used that whole summer was not very sharp as the edges were quite rounded and you are so right, as I think back, there is no way the sharpening steel would be able to clean those edges up. Dad must have had a stone hidden somewhere from us boys that he didn't want damaged by inexperienced hands.

Yankee Josh: Interesting ... I, too have an uncle Norm??? I can remember when the deer were getting cut up there were several knives on the table that dad would take the sharpening steel to before and during the processing. I would stand back quite a ways as the speed and what I then thought was recklessness and later decided was a guy that had done it so much over the years he could do it very quickly without danger to himself or others with his eyes closed using muscle memory alone. Being a retired barber, hence the screen name, all students at the barber school were all instructed in sharpening a razor and stropping on leather coated in jewelers rouge to really makes a sharp edge. I must confess, I see some of the highly polished knife edges here on the forum and they look so good that are truly pieces of art in their own way that I would hate to dull them.

JJ_Colt45: I, too, have been using files and a puck over the years and have been satisfied with the results. While I have heard of the ceramic rods I have not ever used one or seen them demonstrated. I have read here on the forum of guys sharpening knives of the bottom of ceramic coffee cups at the restaurant during breakfast that caused me to chuckle a bit in amusement as many things can be used for purposes other than what they were designed for.

Ernest DuBois: I have thee different steels currently. One is my father's that I saw growing up. It is somewhat long and quite smooth. I have one that came with a Chicago Cutlery knife set I acquired back in the late 1970s or very early 1980s that is not smooth that I guess I would call shallow grooved. And then there is one I bought for $1.00 at an estate sale about six weeks ago in town. It appears to be stainless steel and about 8 inches long with what I consider rather deep grooves running longitudinally and is marked "Made in China". I have used all three and I do not have any complaints with any of them ... so far. The one I use most often is from Chicago Cutlery. Dad's old steel only gets brought out for ceremonial duty at family gatherings when a turkey or ham might test their resolve against the edge of a knife. It will soon get passed down to my nephew who already has dad's old case hawkbilled knife circa. 1930 that must have had the hook on the end break off at some point in time as the blade once looked like a sheepsfoot design and now looks more like a spey blade.

Presuming presumptions, eh? Well the ribbed or grooved variety is what I was speaking of.
 
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