Sharpening "Super Steel"?

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Just got my first CPM-3V knife, (Survive GSO 4.1) and am wondering what you guys use to sharpen your really tough supe steel knives. I've been a fan of the sandpaper/mousepad method, but i don't think that's going to cut it with steel like D2, CPM-3V and S30v.

Thanks for any replies.
 
I've used sandpaper over a Washboard to change the inclusive angle on D2 and finish it up it about 25 minutes. Use a good progression and clean the paper often - will work fine.
 
SiC paper will handle any of those steels. If you are comfortable sharpening this way why mess with a good thing? I don't find 3v that bad... Russ
 
I don't have any experience with the particular steel you mentioned, but I have sharpened D2 and S30V using diamond stones without much of a problem. I'm not even that skilled of a sharpener, either.
 
My FAVORITE for D2 actually is wet/dry sandpaper (SiC and/or AlOx); SiC will eat D2 for breakfast. For convexing, avoid the mousepad, and use a somewhat firmer backing, like thin leather or a few firmly-backed layers of paper over hardwood or glass. For finishing edges on D2, convex or not, I like using trailing strokes on very hard-backed wet/dry sandpaper, over glass or hardwood. Diamond can be handy for setting bevels on D2 (or anything else), but it's not necessary for this steel.

For steels heavy in vanadium carbides (such as the 3V/S30V mentioned), I'd prefer to use diamond, at least for setting bevels; light touch-ups for finished edges could also be done with hard-backed SiC/AlOx, or diamond.

I emphasize firm/hard backing with the sandpaper, because it'll help the abrasive work more aggressively on high-wear steels. Used over glass, SiC wet/dry paper feels almost like a SiC stone. Sometimes it'll fall short on softer backing, when attempting to grind/shape the carbides in these steels, which is why I recommend avoiding mousepads and such. I generally would avoid mousepads with any steel anyway; they're too soft to produce really crisp edges in the finishing stages. The finer the edge becomes, the easier it is to start rounding off the apex if there's any 'give' or conformability to the backing.


David
 
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I typically default to firmer backing materials also, but if you're after a convex edge, I find that a mousepad works well. I'm sure SiC paper on a mousepad will handle your steel just fine.
 
Thanks for the replies.
Sounds like the tried and proven sandpaper method will do the trick.

Does anyone have experience sharpening CPM-3V?
 
My FAVORITE for D2 actually is wet/dry sandpaper (SiC and/or AlOx); SiC will eat D2 for breakfast. For convexing, avoid the mousepad, and use a somewhat firmer backing, like thin leather or a few firmly-backed layers of paper over hardwood or glass. For finishing edges on D2, convex or not, I like using trailing strokes on very hard-backed wet/dry sandpaper, over glass or hardwood. Diamond can be handy for setting bevels on D2 (or anything else), but it's not necessary for this steel.

For steels heavy in vanadium carbides (such as the 3V/S30V mentioned), I'd prefer to use diamond, at least for setting bevels; light touch-ups for finished edges could also be done with hard-backed SiC/AlOx, or diamond.

I emphasize firm/hard backing with the sandpaper, because it'll help the abrasive work more aggressively on high-wear steels. Used over glass, SiC wet/dry paper feels almost like a SiC stone. Sometimes it'll fall short on softer backing, when attempting to grind/shape the carbides in these steels, which is why I recommend avoiding mousepads and such. I generally would avoid mousepads with any steel anyway; they're too soft to produce really crisp edges in the finishing stages. The finer the edge becomes, the easier it is to start rounding off the apex if there's any 'give' or conformability to the backing.


David

Very heplful, David. Thank you for the post!
 
IME 3V & S30V have similar response to abrasive, although 3V can take a keener edge. SiC/Alox work well for up to 1K. Diamond/cbn are more effective abrading VC & WC at higher grit 2k+.
 
CPM 3V is not at all hard to sharpen. I prefer diamond if there is a lot of damage, and ceramic stones for normal/finishing. Sandpaper and some of the other methods described above will also work just fine.
 
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