Recommendation? Sharpening systems.

Slipperyjesus

Slipperyjesus

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Just wondering what the best sharpener for the money is. Need some suggestions, because that is going to be my next purchase. I have tons of flat stones, but am thinking of going with angled or even motorized and mounted. Any advice would be appreciated!
 
even tho its the wrong area, maybe a mod can move it for you.

best for the money is the kme as it comes with 4 diamond stones. however the edge pro has some advantages over it, it will cost more for what you get with the kme. hapstone even more advantages with stone options, and features. then you get into the more expensive realm with the Russian sharpening system which has long delivery times, tho you'll have to research the thread on it to see if they have improved recently or not. after that you have the wicked edge which is beyond expensive but has many options. people say its the pinnacle of knife sharpening but I think its all hype.

i have the kmeand like it but id like to have an edge pro or hapstone. I'd love to try the Russian made sharpening system but it was too costly and to long to get one so I passed on it and got the kme. wickededge isn't worth it to me because I don't sharpen as a business and its way too much money I'd never be able to recoup what it costs unless you sharpening for $.

tormac is really fast system. my buddy has one. but it puts a hollow grind edge on, and only has two stones and strop. course and medium changed by a stone and an expensive Japanese fine stone. it only gets so sharp with that formula, some want to go even further.
 
Mo2 said:
even tho its the wrong area, maybe a mod can move it for you.

best for the money is the kme as it comes with 4 diamond stones. however the edge pro has some advantages over it, it will cost more for what you get with the kme. hapstone even more advantages with stone options, and features. then you get into the more expensive realm with the Russian sharpening system which has long delivery times, tho you'll have to research the thread on it to see if they have improved recently or not. after that you have the wicked edge which is beyond expensive but has many options. people say its the pinnacle of knife sharpening but I think its all hype.

i have the kmeand like it but id like to have an edge pro or hapstone. I'd love to try the Russian made sharpening system but it was too costly and to long to get one so I passed on it and got the kme. wickededge isn't worth it to me because I don't sharpen as a business and its way too much money I'd never be able to recoup what it costs unless you sharpening for $.

tormac is really fast system. my buddy has one. but it puts a hollow grind edge on, and only has two stones and strop. course and medium changed by a stone and an expensive Japanese fine stone. it only gets so sharp with that formula, some want to go even further.
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Thank you. That's something to consider.
 
I didn't see you over in MT&E so may as well answer here.
The best sharpening system for your money is to use the stones you have.

but

When you get tired of holding your tongue just right and puckering your puckerer so as to not make a mistake in concentration . . .

Why just today I sharpened an edge very easily hair whittling on kind of a lumpy blade without much registration surface . . . I mean the thing is roughly ground from a Ti Lite of all things (I still have a bunch of refining to do to the sides of the blade) . . . and still with hardly a glance and some good mindless habits it still . . . in spite of interruptions and no talent on my part came out . . . well as I said as sharp as about anything else you might care to trade it for.

The best (and perhaps most versatile) sharpening system, in my limited experience, is the Edge Pro.

Yes there is probably something "better" out there but . . . sharper than easily hair whittling and easier than little effort . . . that's a pretty fine line to trade on.
 
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I mean here you go. This is the blade. I first sharpened it and had some free time left so I began to take it to this coarse 120 stone to try and smooth out the sides after the coarse grinding work ((done on a power grinder and then a super coarse diamond file; not the Edge Pro)) . . . I wanted to be clear about that . . . I thinned the blade from over 3mm down to just under 2mm (and notice no ridge running down the middle of the side of the blade . . . yes there has been some MAJOR reshaping done to it and more to go). And obviously I shortened it just a little.

Edge Pro.
Good Stuff !

PS: I will work on the polish and pretty of this blade over the days and weeks to come but I wanted a functional knife for work tomorrow.

 
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Best sharpener I have is the Work Sharp (Regular). I got a Sharpmaker, but realized I was terrible at freehand sharpening, and don't have the time to learn how to sharpen with stones. I considered the wicked edge/edge pro....those were nice, but way too expensive and inefficient.

The only downside with the work sharp is that it is electric, which means you are tethered to an outlet. I am working on making mine portable and variable speed, and I might post a guide in the appropriate forum once the project is complete in case some people are interested.

In terms of sharpness, the WS gets your knives extremely sharp very quickly with the included belts, but not hair whittling. I was able to find a 3rd party leather honing belt, but have not tried it out yet. Puts on a smooth edge, excellent for push cutting.

Forgot how to add images, but here is a link to an example. The magnified picture is a crappy kitchen knife edge magnified 200x.

http://imgur.com/a/g4rjl
 
Hi,
Slipperyjesus said:
Just wondering what the best sharpener for the money is. Need some suggestions, because that is going to be my next purchase. I have tons of flat stones, but am thinking of going with angled or even motorized and mounted. Any advice would be appreciated!
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The one is the best (get it its the best one) :)

What are the best features?
What features are important to you?
How much money?

If you're willing to wait for it, Knife Robot is coming , no not that russian cowboy robut, think CNC sharpener
 
Cutlover said:
Best sharpener I have is the Work Sharp (Regular). I got a Sharpmaker, but realized I was terrible at freehand sharpening, and don't have the time to learn how to sharpen with stones. I considered the wicked edge/edge pro....those were nice, but way too expensive and inefficient.

The only downside with the work sharp is that it is electric, which means you are tethered to an outlet. I am working on making mine portable and variable speed, and I might post a guide in the appropriate forum once the project is complete in case some people are interested.

In terms of sharpness, the WS gets your knives extremely sharp very quickly with the included belts, but not hair whittling. I was able to find a 3rd party leather honing belt, but have not tried it out yet. Puts on a smooth edge, excellent for push cutting.

Forgot how to add images, but here is a link to an example. The magnified picture is a crappy kitchen knife edge magnified 200x.

http://imgur.com/a/g4rjl
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there are lots of cons to the work sharp.
1 only does convex
2 has to plug in
3 limited belt choices
4 uneven bevel grinds
5 scratching blades
6 rounding tips
and more. I have one. it takes lots of practice in order to not do some of those cons but even then, it could still happen.

just saying. if you don't care about the cons its not bad for the money. you will not get them as sharp as say an edge pro or kme with all the stone and strop options available.
 
Mo2 said:
there are lots of cons to the work sharp.
1 only does convex
2 has to plug in
3 limited belt choices
4 uneven bevel grinds
5 scratching blades
6 rounding tips
and more. I have one. it takes lots of practice in order to not do some of those cons but even then, it could still happen.

just saying. if you don't care about the cons its not bad for the money. you will not get them as sharp as say an edge pro or kme with all the stone and strop options available.
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Everything you said comes from ignorance.
1.Nothing wrong with convex. The other sharpeners only do flat! Nothing wrong with either.
2.So what it plugs in!
3.About as many belt choices as stones. It's called Micro-Mesh belts!
4.I can make perfect, even bevel grinds every single time! It's called practice!
5.See number 4!
6.Easy to not round the tip by taking care not to let tip drop off belt. And it was actually easier for me to to get the results I wanted, over my initial use with the Edge Pro.

It sounds to me that you have not been able to get good results, so must mean no one can. Well I'm sorry my friend, but just because your results are garbage, doesn't mean the same for others. Look, I'm not at all saying the Work Sharp is the best. I was in love with my Edge Pro, but after an accident paralyzed my left arm/hand, I could no longer use it. The Work Sharp was a great answer at the time, those years ago. Now I use a system I built myself, which uses the Edge Pro stones, but is a one hand option. But I digress.

My point to this is, I don't believe there is a BEST option. Someone good with one system, may be horrible with another. And there are some who are able to get a nasty edge on any blade, with any sharpener. In the end, there are many different ways to accomplish the same outcome.(More than one way to skin a cat) But when you single one out and give a bunch of reasons why it doesn't work, you sound ignorant and lack any trustworthy knowledge.
 
Mo2 said:
even tho its the wrong area, maybe a mod can move it for you.

best for the money is the kme as it comes with 4 diamond stones. however the edge pro has some advantages over it, it will cost more for what you get with the kme. hapstone even more advantages with stone options, and features. then you get into the more expensive realm with the Russian sharpening system which has long delivery times, tho you'll have to research the thread on it to see if they have improved recently or not. after that you have the wicked edge which is beyond expensive but has many options. people say its the pinnacle of knife sharpening but I think its all hype.

i have the kmeand like it but id like to have an edge pro or hapstone. I'd love to try the Russian made sharpening system but it was too costly and to long to get one so I passed on it and got the kme. wickededge isn't worth it to me because I don't sharpen as a business and its way too much money I'd never be able to recoup what it costs unless you sharpening for $.

tormac is really fast system. my buddy has one. but it puts a hollow grind edge on, and only has two stones and strop. course and medium changed by a stone and an expensive Japanese fine stone. it only gets so sharp with that formula, some want to go even further.
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I second this opinion and opted to purchase the kme recently and will never regret that decision. Heck I may even start sharpening and doing a bit of basic maintenance on some stuff locally to me just because I actually can get a knife really sharp and I do actually now enjoy the process. My suggestion is see if you can find a few to handle and try on some cheap knives and then buy what fits your style best. I tried and still own lansky systems and I own an edge pro knock off but will divert to my kme before either of the others
 
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  • Smith’s DFPK Diamond Precision Sharpening System

  • KME KFS Professional Knife Sharpening System

  • AGPtek Professional Kitchen Sharpening System

  • Lansky Deluxe 5-Stone Knife Sharpening System

  • Edge Pro Apex 4 Knife Sharpening System
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IMO the best system for the money is the KME but most systems out there will give great results with practice.

It all depends on what exactly your looking for and what you want to spend.
The Lansky and DMT are similar to the KME but not as versatile or fine tuneable.
 
KME for me, LOVE it for making edges that go through things like a hot knife thru butter- Also great for teaching my sons the beginning skill set. And I started with stones 4 decades ago and have tried enough set ups and systems to know the value of the KME.
 
What are your expectations from this purchase?

For the cost of some of the guided manual systems you could get a wet wheel grinder and have a powered option that will make very good tree-topping edges, quietly and cleanly with a minimum of hand finish if any.

For motorized sharpening a Triton with a couple of jigs is a solid option.

I also use a Bubba'd Harbor Freight 1x30 but really only use it to do regrinds and some rough setting of bevels before transitioning to freehand for actual sharpening. For regrinds and shaping, a belt grinder is invaluable, it would not be my first choice for sharpening. And I find the 30" belts to be barely enough surface area.

Disclaimer - I do not have a Worksharp and many who do seem to like them well enough. That said, my grinder is variable speed, guided, and has longer belts, and I still don't like it much for sharpening though it does work OK in that role. The wet wheel grinder does a better job.
 
Slipperyjesus said:
Just wondering what the best sharpener for the money is. Need some suggestions, because that is going to be my next purchase. I have tons of flat stones, but am thinking of going with angled or even motorized and mounted. Any advice would be appreciated!
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Here is a video about cutting edges and how to sharpen them from a guy who has probably sharpened hundreds of thousands of knives during his life.

 
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