Sharpening the 3V and Protecting that JRE Sheath!

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So, I have been playing with my 2nd Generation Bushcrafter (Cocobolo, 3V, Stainless hardware) and I have been experimenting with sharpening that harder than rock 3V. My current method that is cheap, easy, and produces (frankly) great results. For those of you new to Scandi's, 3V, or Dan's work - here is that method:

1) Get a piece of glass (12x12 should do fine).

2) Tape it to a flat surface - at the edge of the table.

3) Get a selection of good (3M works great) Wet/Dry sand paper. (I get 220, 600, 800, 1000, 2000) from your local hardware or auto parts store.

4) Tape whichever grit you want to to the surface of the glass at the edge of the glass.

5) Lay the blade flat on the glass, tip it up to being flat on the Scandi grind and push the blade over the Wet/Dry - being careful to tip it slightly at the point so that the entire flat of the Scandi grind is being abraded.

6) After a few strokes (alternating in either direction) take a look at your results. You should be making sanding marks across the entire flat of the scandi grind and not leaving any shiny or dull spots on the bevel. If you are, adjust your movements to ensure a flat bevel.

7) I continue to alternate strokes with whatever grit I am using until I get a good wire edge across the entire blade and I have an absolute flat surface on both sides of the Scandi Grind.

8) I then go up grits until I terminate with 2000 grit. At the end of 2000 I have a fairly good edge on my knife and the polish is looking pretty good. 3V takes the bite out of your wet/dry pretty fast so at the end of using the 2000 grit - it is probably more like 3000 or 4000 grit that is actually being used.

I then grab my strop. I use a JRE Strop Bat loaded with black, green, and pink compounds.

9) I lay the Strop Bat on a flat surface and lay the blade on the black compound strop. I then PULL the blade toward me ensuring the Scandi grind is fully contacting the surface of the strop. This does not take much pressure - so don't bear down. You don't want to convex the edge that you just took so long in sharpening (although this process will convex the very edge just a bit).

10) Go through black, green, pink, and then no compound strops until you have a VERY sharp and mirror polished edge.

Shave your face or cut a tree - this baby is ready!

Here is my edge after sharpening today - The entire process took about 15 minutes, and after working with it, I would not bother with the wet dry unless I had a nick to take out or my knife was VERY dull:

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Dan supplied the second generation of Bushcrafters (as I am fairly sure he is with the 2009 batch) with an excellent JRE deep pouch sheath.

This sheath is very well made, but I like to seal mine a bit and burnish the edges. I used Feibrings Leather Balm with Atom Wax (you can find this online or at a local Tandy or other leather supply store).

Follow the directions on the product. Add light coats working in the product evenly.

I, then, take a hard flat object (a brass rod would be great, a bit of smooth antler works well, but the barrel of a Sharpie would work fine) and burnish the edges. This simply means applying pressure to the edges whilst rubbing vigorously to lightly burn the leather edges and compress the fibers into a more robust edge.

I do this for the edges, the back of the sheath on the belt loop and the inside of the dangler.

There are other things you can use to burnish edges that may produce a more professional look - but this works pretty darned well as far as I am concerned. With this product, as well, you can add protection by rubbing some Kiwi natural wax paste over the top from time to time. Keep the Kiwi on only the flesh portions of the leather and not the grain.

Here is what mine looked like after wet molding and sealing:

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Again, this is simply what I do - and I know of many other products and methods. I simply wanted (and I hope I am not out of turn Dan) to give my methods that I am finding success with and hope it helps someone.

TF
 
Thanks for the pointers TF. The flat glass/sandpaper trick also works great for tools such as planes and chisels.
 
TF,

Where did you buy the glass? Do you think granite would work well enough?

Thanks,

Doug

Glass sheet that is formed by floating it over molten tin (I think) makes for a very flat surface. I've heard that it actually follows the curve of the planet but that's pretty much flat, being such an enormous sphere.

Granite countertops might approach this flatness. I'm not sure. There are flat granite blocks used for extremely fine measurements and are available, but they can be pricy. Just get some glass (1/4" or 3/8" will be fine) for a cheap and very efficient way to get sharp tools. My chisels are mainly done this way.
 
I am sure granite would be fine - but I bought the glass at a hardware store - dirt cheap and they will cut it to whatever size you want.

The whole kit mentioned above (if you made your own strop) cost about 15 bucks - probably less.

TF
 
TF,

Where did you buy the glass? Do you think granite would work well enough?

Thanks,

Doug

You can get glass cut to size at "old school" type hardware stores like ace and true value. Or you might be able to call a glass repair company, alot of times they cut glass to size to fit whater window frame they are filling.
 
Down here in Houston - most homes have single paned glass - so that is VERY easy to come by - but any competent hardware will have it.

TF
 
Thanks to one and all! I imagine the edges of the glass will be quite sharp, how do each of you choose to deal with them so you do not cut yourself on the glass while sharpening?
 
Chapman,

They are not that sharp - but you can run a file down the edges to remove the sharpness. Oddly - sand paper works for this too! ;)

TF
 
We have granite countertops in the kitchen. I'll have to try this when the wife isn't looking. :)
 
Great thread, Talfuchre!

I wish I could take the time to put a finish like that on mine. Maybe I will on the next time around...but the pricing will start at $200 !! :eek: :p


How about "Save $80 by polishing yourself" for a thread title? :D :p


Seriously, though - great tips/tricks thread. And thanks for the pics!

Dan
 
I remember when I did my reviews of your knives Dan - I thought - Could the edge be take down quite a bit of grits and hand sharpened - YES - would that cost me a butt load - YES - am I going to put my polish on it anyway - YES!

I would rather save the money AND have a great knife!

TF
 
***This is an older thread***

Hi Talfuchre,

I have a couple more questions about your method described above:

What kind of tape were you using to keep the wet/dry paper in once place?

Where you leading with the edge or trailing with the edge?

When "alternating strokes" do you use "1 right then 1 left" or something like "10 right then 10 left"?

...thank you again for your time and efforts!

Sincerely,

Doug
 
Talfuchre - I failed to say:

1 - great pics!
2 - beautiful polish!


Dan
 
Chapman,

I use blue painters tape to hold down my glass and wet dry.

I lead with the portion of the blade closest to the handle and then push to the tip. Do a search on Youtube for Ray Mears sharpening a blade and follow his tecnique.

I usually, when I get my blade, get one side about right - and the flip to the other. When it looks good - I then go fully alternating - one stroke at a time on each side.

I hope that answers it - I should do a video.

TF
 
Yes, please do!

I'll gladly host it on my site and we can post it here.

:thumbup:

Dan
 
good point.
Other mod I did to my shealth was to move dangler ring from top loop to down loop so when dangler in no used can be laid flat over the shealth back ann you can carry the shealth with your belt inside the shealth loop.
Even I was thinking to take out the upper rivet..........
 
Facablade,

A product that I am selling, concerning your sheath modification, is a removable dangler. Check out the link in my signature. This is not to be a for sale thread - but I wanted to mention that on top of your suggestion.

TF
 
A video would be very helpful! I will look up Ray Mears on Youtube.

One clarification if possible: are you using a stropping motion or are you envisioning slicing a small bit of the sharpening media off the sharpening surface?

Perhaps the Youtube research will answer this question...I'll find out.

Thank you again!

Doug
 
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