Sharpening the Back of a D2 Outcast? (Pics)

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I would appreciate some feedback on turning the Outcast into more of a piercer. I like the grip. I like D2. I reformed the sheath and removed any rattle. I do not like the tip on this knife. If I were to grind the swedge into a sharpened false edge I think it would make for a better penetrating tip. Freshly sharpened it was difficult to get through a roll of paper towels as a tip test. I am concerned about how big (deep and long) the swedge is and fear of making the blade lopsided. Any Thoughts?

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If they would have just left the back alone this would have been a Great looking knife
 
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that looks like a whole lot of metal to remove. unless you have a grinder handy I wouldnt bother. That blades for chopping not stabbing but it you want a little more point you might want to try the busse style pennetrator tip like this.

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I stripped the coating and rounded the front swedge, I also gave it a shallow convex which really improved performance. I thought about doing a top swedge but it just doesn't line up very well plus its very thick.
 
@tjiscooler
I can get time on some grinders but I think that busse grind is the way to go, that is an awesome solution.

I got this D2, a Cold Steel Bowie Machete, a CS shovel, and the CS katana machete at the same time. I did a live oak tree trim. I put these four to work as a test. The CS shovel did ok and its a good shovel. I was dumbfounded at how poorly the other three performed. I have an old Ontario Machete with a lanyard that is part of my yard kit and it serves as my point of reference. The Ontario cuts very well. I gave up on the the two CS machetes. Later I went into the house and added a lanyard to the Outcast gave it another shot at 100% and still was not thrilled with the results. I was using to clear small branches in places to use the chainsaw. I remember how amazed I was at how small the branches had to be to be cut in one cut. I also used to cut a few larger branches which got old quick. The knife had been sharpened with a standard non convex edge and I not sure how much of a difference a convex edge would have made. For example the bowie machete and the Ontario were sharpened the same way and are roughly the same size but the cuts are worlds apart. The odd math of terminal ballistics I guess. So I bailed on the outcast as a chopper . I will put that tip suggested and add the blade to my backup bug bag in more of a tactical role.

@knifenut
No doubt big ass swedge. I like the idea of rounding off the swedge. I will see how the new grinds on the tip look and if I don’t like it I may start rounding stuff off. If you ever have the extra time a pic would be helpful. I bought the knife online I’m not sure I would have bought if I saw the that big honking swedge.


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If you have a grinder try thinning out the edge and convexing it too! Will make a huge difference. Convex is the best chopping edge by far.
 
Yes I agree that convex edge is better but it by how much that makes me curious. I started a thread on this subforum asking that question.
 
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