Sharpening using both diamond bench stones And Sharpmaker Basic advice needed.

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I love knives, but sharpening is my weak point. All advice is much appreciated.
1] Lubricants. I have read a lot of stuff lately and now even more confused. For benchstones and Sharpmaker should they be used dry OR water instead?
2] Angle maintenance. To keep the blade consistantly at the right angle with benchstones how do you do it? Do you use some sort of guidance tool or system?
3] Scratches on the blade. Seems no matter how hard I try to be careful I end up getting some scratches on my blades during the sharpening process. I love a shiny spotless immaculate surfaces so scratches put me in agony. Any suggestions? I know I could send out my blades to have done by someone else, which I may end up doing, but I want to feel the satisfaction of a job well done doing it myself. Make sense?
 
I'm sure members with far more experience than I well chime in with regards to using bench stones but I can speak about using the Spyderco Sharpmaker. Its meant to be used dry, it comes with an instructional DVD and you can look it up on YouTube and watch the exact same video there if you have the Sharpmaker but no DVD. Watching the video is VERY important and will show you just how easy the device is to use. When I started to get serious sharpening my own knives I bought the Sharpmaker, I'm not saying its the best but it is about as easy as sharpening gets and works great for me. Once you have the rods in place you simply draw the knife blade down one rod and then the other while keeping the knife/blade straight up and down (this is easy...just take your time to get the feel for it) and use the knife as if your trying to slice a sticker off of the ceramic rod.

There's no reason why using the Sharpmaker should scratch the side of your blade since it's only making contact at the edge. If your knives are users I'd try and get over the concern of getting them scratched since its bound to happen while using a knife at some point. I understand the sort of OCD some of us have especially when it comes to our more expensive knives but try your best to get over it...a knife is a tool and will get scratched from using it. If the knife isn't going to be used then I wouldn't bother sharpening it but rather just keep the factory/makers edge on the knife.

Check out the videos at YouTube for different sharpeners like thew Sharpmaker and see if one looks to fit your needs better than another.
Best of luck!
 
I love knives, but sharpening is my weak point. All advice is much appreciated.
1] Lubricants. I have read a lot of stuff lately and now even more confused. For benchstones and Sharpmaker should they be used dry OR water instead?

With the diamond hones, either water or water + dish soap works well, and makes clean-up a breeze. Can also use them dry. No oil; it's harder to clean off the hones, and doesn't really add any benefit, beyond water or water/soap.
I use the Sharpmaker dry only, as I prefer the feedback felt from a dry ceramic hone. They can feel pretty 'glassy' when wet/lubed, so it's harder for me to tell by feel, what's happening at the edge.
With either, feel free to periodically rinse the hones, or wipe them down with a damp sponge/paper towel. This is more critical for the ceramics, because they load up quickly. The diamond hones are more tolerant of some swarf accumulation, but still should at least be cleaned up after each session, for best results.

2] Angle maintenance. To keep the blade consistantly at the right angle with benchstones how do you do it? Do you use some sort of guidance tool or system?

For 'training' the hands, an Aligner clamp is very useful. Since you've already got the diamond bench hones, that's a perfect complement to the tools you're using. It's easy to assume the clamp might be only a 'crutch' for sharpening, but with repetition, your hands will get used to the feel of maintaining the angle. I didn't really expect that when I first started using a guided system, but it just kind of happened on it's own. The hands will 'learn' to maintain better control, even while using the guide. Much like learning to ride a bicycle using training wheels. After some time, the 'balance' will be there suddenly, and the training wheels won't be quite so necessary anymore.

3] Scratches on the blade. Seems no matter how hard I try to be careful I end up getting some scratches on my blades during the sharpening process. I love a shiny spotless immaculate surfaces so scratches put me in agony. Any suggestions? I know I could send out my blades to have done by someone else, which I may end up doing, but I want to feel the satisfaction of a job well done doing it myself. Make sense?

If preventing or minimizing scratches is a bigger concern, I'd again recommend using a guide. With repetition & practice, your hands will eventually get a feel for maintaining control (angle, pressure and speed), which will go a long ways towards minimizing scratching. For me personally, the speed is important. Don't rush, because that'll make for sloppy results (dull edges and unnecessary scratching). Maintain a pace that also allows you to maintain complete control. That means take it slow.

Edit: The biggest 'plus' for you, as I see it now, is that the Aligner clamp is a very useful and inexpensive fix for the questions you have. Can be found for ~$15.00 or so, and will teach you a lot, if used thoughtfully. When practicing with it, pay close attention to how the blade feels in your hands on the hone, and the feedback you get through your fingers, and the pressure used (always should be light). After some repetition, your hands will begin to make automatic adjustments for angle & pressure, based almost entirely on the feel of the blade on the hones. More often than not, a bevel will feel somewhat 'slicker' when it's fully flush to a hone, and will feel much rougher if the angle gets too high (edge only, scrubbing on the hone) or too low (shoulders only). Paying attention to the feedback felt through the fingers will reveal a whole lot, making quick adjustments very easy.
 
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Thanks Very much for the help. All great suggestions. I will get the aligner tool before using the stones and will stick with the Sharpmaker for now.
 
I am buy no means an expert at sharpening. I have a Wicked edge system and it works great for me. Lately I have been wanting to learn to free hand sharpen so I solicited some info on stones and bought a couple and have been practicing away. I have actually had pretty good results (hair shaving sharp) so far. The one thing that I can suggest is to take your time. When I start rushing and thinking about other things that's when I start getting poor results (with the WE and bench stones). Oh yeah and get a bunch of Sharpie markers to mark the edge so you can tell where you are removing metal and when you have reached the apex of each edge. This really helped me get and maintain the angle I wanted.

Practice practice practice. Good luck. Let us know how it goes.
 
Practice, read, practice, watch some videos, practice, figure out what is BS, practice.

Sharpening is very basic, you grind metal to form an apex. The difference between good results, and great results is practice.
 
Thanks everyone. I will give an update. I think I can see that practice is the bottom line here. I will use a couple I blades that are really ugly to get the practice on. :)
 
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