Sharpmaker?

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I am 64 years old and have had knives all of my life always doing my own sharpening with mediocre but acceptable results. Recently I received my Benchmade 556 Mini-Griptilian, my first BM by the way, and upon testing its sharpness right out of the box I discovered that I didn't know sharp from shinola.

A term I have seen in several posts, "scary sharp", best describes my new knife. While I follow the directions in the video that accompanied my Sharpmaker I have never gotten a knife near this sharp. I guess what I am looking for is any suggestions as to what I might be doing wrong.

Thanks for any help provided.

John
 
Well in my experiance, Benchmade knives come with a large angle on the bevel. since the most the sharpmaker can handle is 20 degrees per side, yur probably not sharpening the bevel and just hitting the sholder. If yur going to sharpen with the sharpmaker yur going to have to grind down the bevel to the required angle before you it'll work. I have a sharpmaker myself and because of my lack of a coarse to grind down the bevel, I ended up sharpening my BM 551 my hand.

One old trick is to mark the bevel with a marker and then sharpen with it. If all the marker on the bevel comes off that means that you've hit the right angle for it. I'm pretty sure if you were to try this with the mini-grip then you would see that the stone isnt hitting the very edge of the bevel.
 
If you got the knife new, the blade should sharpen just fine at the 40 degree mark. Make sure that your knife is SRAIGHT up and down like the video tells you. Do light strokes. Try 20 on the brown stones at the Corner, than 20 on the flat. Switch to the white corners and do 20 there finally with 20 more on the flats of the whites. It should produce an edge as sharp if not sharper than the factory edge.

You might also want to look at investing into a strop to give it that final "scary polish" as well as the Ultra Fine stones. Personally, I have the Diamond as well as the UF fine stones. I also have a bench cheapy smith diamond dbl side sharpern as well. Everything gets finished off on the strop which is basically a flat slab of leather loaded with Metal polish for 2-5 microns. I can get my knives to where when you pass it on your leg or arm, you can see and hear the hairs "popping" off.

Hope that helps you some. Maybe if all else fails, take a video for us to see how you do sharpen it and wel can let you know whats wrong with your technique.

~Brian
 
I've had great fun for the last year experimenting with a Sharpmaker and trying to reach higher levels of sharpness. (Most of what I tried were suggestions from this forum.) My sharpening has improved to the point that I can push cut printer paper at 4 inches from the hold point. I expect to eventualy do even better with time.

The most productive tip has already been mentioned. i.e. make sure the bevel angle is not so obtuse that the Sharpmaker rods don't touch the very edge. If the bevel angle is greater than 40 degrees, then some grinding on a course bench stone or DMT will be necessary before the Sharpmaker will do anything to the edge.

Here are some more things to consider and experiment with. I can't promise any of these will work for you, but they might. Either way, the experimentation is fun. (It's not the destination, it's all about the journey:cool: )

1. Keep the stones very clean. I get a much better edge quality with clean stones. I clean after each knife. Some people clean after every few strokes!

2. Start with moderate to light pressure and gradually progress to even less pressure. The stones act on the edge to
a) cut away metal and
b) bend the edge.
You want to incourage the former and discourage the latter. So keep the stones clean and use light pressure.

3. You can experiment with burr formation and removal. The classic burr formation is more easily accomplished by raising a burr on one side before switching to the other. I learned to form and remove pronounced burrs by leaning a coarse DMT against the Spyderco Stones and raised a burr on one side before moving to the other. Then I finished out with the Sharpmaker stones in the normal way. I don't do this routinely, but I recommend you try it.

4. I believe that certain forms of faulty edge creation tend to persist and reform in the next sharpening session. So in some cases it is a good idea to obliterate the old edge before starting a new sharpening session. You can do this by lightly cutting the edge directly into the stones a few strokes.

5. I was able to get a much sharper edge on the sharpmaker by finishing with the optional ultra-fine rods. They are not terribly expensive. The standard medium stones are all that I need for kitchen knives, but for pushing the limit, the fine and ultra-fine are useful.

6. As the edge becomes very sharp it also becomes very thin at the apex. So progressing to extreme sharpness requires a light touch to keep from damaging the fragile edge.

7. Stropping on loaded leather or paper allowed me to gain about 10%. Most folks on the forum recommend using a hard backing and using very light strokes to keep from rounding the edge.

8. You can experiment with polished edges (ultra-fine stones and stropping) versus coarser edges that slice more aggresively (medium stones). A very carefully formed coarse edge can feel sharper than a polished edge.

9. You can experiment with burr removal strategies. Some recommend finishing with very light strokes at a slightly elevated angle.

Good Luck!
 
Thanks for all the help here and for the e-mail I received from a member.

John
 
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