Shaving Soap

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I have been thinking of starting to use a brush and soap for shaving. 54 years of age and never used a brush on my face before. I am going to start out with an inexpensive brush to see if this is something I will stay with and buy a nicer boar brush later. Soaps are another thing. I hate to admit it buy I do have sensitive facial skin. I will not be spending enough for a high dollar Italian or English soap but I would like to hear what others are using.

Anyone try Avon's Skin So Soft shaving soap?
 
I use The Gentlemen's Quarter soap

http://www.thegentlemensquarter.com/category.php?cid=1

I like it very much. Her samples are $2.10; but for $3.48, I would suggest spluging on a 1 ounce puck.

The soap is the same regardless of which fragrance you select. Lime Margarita is my favorite along with Armani Black Code. Whatever fragrance you select isn't that important as her shaving soaps don't leave much of a fragrance behind after you rinse off.
 
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Most people DO have sensitive skin, after all it's a blade you pass over your skin when you shave:eek::D

Are you set on soap or do you want to try creams as well? They do behave differently lather wise. Proraso soap is very good and not too dear, Colonel Conk is I find very acceptable and not expensive either. Brush and soap/cream is a miles ahead of squirty stuff out of an aerosol, so you can't go wrong:D
 
I'm just getting started with straight razor shaving so I can't be of huge help to you but here are the soaps that I have tried: coln. conk lime, coln. conk bay rum, udder delight bay rum, poraso aloe & green tea and have ordered some Tabac and some of FortyTwoBlades soaps as well.

So with all that I have received so far I like the poraso the best, it gets the best lather the easiest. I have heard that once you have the technique down that glycerin based soaps are incredible. A ton of wet shavers swear by Tabac and the link above is the cheapest I was able to find a puck to try.

Here's a link to help you with your lather once you get your soaps.

Also, Larry Andreassen is a great guy to deal with if you're looking to buy a brush (or straight razor or having a blade honed). I have bought multiple 22mm pure badger knots from him and set them in my own antler handles and they have all been top notch, especially for an entry level brush. If you're interested in a pure badger set in elk antler let me know.

Good luck!
 
I use the proaso aloe and green tea, I love it, but I also have only tried two others and they were dirt cheap. today I picked up some proraso pre shave (green) and gave that a try. Smells sort of like Vick's vapor rub, but I did find it softened the beard a fair amount. I follow up with The Gentlemens Refinery's after shave balm, This stuff is worth every penny of its price in my opinion.
I have a tough beard and very sensitive skin and have had minimal razor burn using this stuff.
 
Imho, starting out with a cheap brush is a mistake. Some of the
boar bristle sticks from Walgreens, RiteAid, etc are best used for
cleaning corrosion off the battery terminals of your car. Start out
with some sort of badger brush and work your way up to a quality
silvertip.

Taylor of Old Bond Street has been my choice for many years. Lather,
fragrence and lubrication are hard to beat.
 
I have the omega boar bristle brush and it is really soft, and at $16 Canadian it was a steal. I still want to get a silver tip badger hair brush, to compare with it, and to have a nice brush:o

The omega actually won a budget brush shoot out.
 
I thought I would update this thread.
I purchased a Van Der Hagen boar brush at CVS and a bar of the same brand soap at Wal-mart. Interesting is that neither store stocked both items. The local Walgreens did not have either brush or soap for manual lathering of face.
I have tried it a few times and I am yet undecided if this is something I will keep with or go back to the canned stuff. My hands are nowhere steady enough for me to try a straight razor and my memory of using a DE razor, last used in the 70's, were not happy ones. I was a quick convert to the disposables after finding the Gillette Good News Microtrek and then the Schick Slim Twins. Right now I am trying a Schick Hydro 5 razor. I will update after a few more shaves with it to give myself time to get used to it.
 
At the moment, I am using Taylor's Sandalwood which is really good. However I started out with the feeling that I couldn't get as good a lather with this soap as cream but I have stayed with it until I got better. My technique from preparing the puck to loading the brush and adding water has improved and, maybe more importantly, I've broken in my new Rooney brush so it is mixing up beautifully now.

It's early days, but I already feel that soap is kinder to my skin than cream. I wonder if other shavers have found this to be the case?

Mark
 
At the moment, I am using Taylor's Sandalwood which is really good. However I started out with the feeling that I couldn't get as good a lather with this soap as cream but I have stayed with it until I got better. My technique from preparing the puck to loading the brush and adding water has improved and, maybe more importantly, I've broken in my new Rooney brush so it is mixing up beautifully now.

It's early days, but I already feel that soap is kinder to my skin than cream. I wonder if other shavers have found this to be the case?

Mark

I definitely have noticed this too, not only is shaving easier on my face but the soap is great for my skin in general. My skin is softer, and more elastic and my complexion has improved since switching
 
Does anyone have experience on MWF (Mitchell's Wool Fat) soap?

I have read a lot of good reviews about it giving a great shave while being gentle to skin although some have difficulty getting a rich lather from it?

It has been on my mind since I got back into DE shaving but I somehow never got around to ordering it. My shelves are near hand full as it is and I don't want stuff sitting around unused but I'm still really tempted to buy this one item before stopping until I use up most of my current supplies.

Mark
 
A guy from badger and blade gave me a couple MWF samples and I also had a hard time getting a good lather until I followed the directions in the soap subforum. After I got a good lather finally it shaved very well! I still prefer the lather in tabac but it was excellent on my skin and was nice to use.

I hope it's okay to quote the tutorial here:

Jim said:
The following is a guide and suggestions for the foundation for a great lather.

This tutorial was developed by a group of B&B members in collaboration. A team of struggling new wetshavers worked with more experienced members to learn how to make great lathers with a variety of soaps. They documented their progress – triumphs and setbacks – and developed the method shown below. This method of lather making is not the only way to get to a great shave – it is however in our collective experience the simplest and easiest to communicate through our chosen medium. We hope with this we can get our new lathermeisters on the fast track to great shaves. Enjoy!

OK lets get started~
If you are using a soft brush it may take up to a full minute to fully load your brush, or as little as 15 seconds with a premium soap brush.

1. Fill sink with hot water and submerge bowl in water.

2. Place brush into bowl and let soak while you are showering- at least a couple of minutes.

3. Place a thin layer of water on your soap and let soak for at least a couple of minutes. (A teaspoon's worth)

4. Remove brush from bowl and squeeze bristles vigorously. Give it a couple of good shakes as well.

5. Dump the thin layer of water off of soap. (Your lather bowl is a good place for this)

6. Begin swirling your brush in a circular motion with light to medium pressure. Add some plunger motions, use the whole brush including the sides of the brush. Continue swirling until a paste-like consistency begins to form on the top of the soap and on the brush.
Bubbles mean too much water. A large volume of lather means too much water.
Continue to swirl until a noticeable audible and tactile difference is made when the brush moves over the soap. When the paste is forming the brush is noisier and seems to drag over the soap instead of smoothly going over the top. The brush will “drag”.

7. Take a look at your brush, do the bristles clump together? If yes, you're done. If no, continue to swirl and load.

8. Now you can build lather on your face or move to a bowl!

9. Add water as needed- a few drips at a time.

Remember to soak your brush well!

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My process:

1) Splash some hot water into the soap bowl and then immediately pour out the excess down the drain. I call this, "waking up the soap," and it just softens the top of the soap for faster loading of the brush. Set the soap bowl aside for a couple of minutes while you...

2) Pull up the drain stopper and run hot water into the sink while soaking your brush in the sink as it fills.

3) Shake the bush gently just a few times to shake off excess water. After a few tries, you'll get a feel for how much to shake.

4) Swirl the brush on the soap until lather (not just soapy water) begins to foam in the bowl.

5) Face-lather the rest of the way. Use circular strokes to build the lather and then painting strokes to spread it.

Between first and second passes, the brush can sit in the bowl. When you face-lather the second pass, you'll probably need to quickly dip the first inch or so of the brush into the sink to get a bit more water into the mix. Again, you'll get a feel for how much with a few tries.

That's it; that's all. Quick and easy.
 
Good advice there fellas :)

I must admit that I was having difficulties mixing up a look lather myself but with a little reading up and practice, while it's still far from perfect, I got much improved results by following a couple of the tips which are actually shown in the pictures above. My first mistake, which was created by habit from using cream, was leaving too much water on the brush before attacking the puck. This lead to a frothy mix which wasn't loading the bristles at all. It does indeed need to be strongly squeezed out and that way you're getting a much clearer transfer of pure soap from the puck to the brush. Another important thing is to keep at it until the puck seems to dry off.

These couple of simple points made all the difference.

Like Chuck does, I must try face lathering sometime. I enjoy the bowl stage but this would be a good skill to learn. Another step on my road is experimenting with Superlather and Uberlather, for the fun of it as much as anything else :D

Mark
 
Van der Hagen Deluxe shaving soap is actually a good shave soap. I can get great lather with it, if I do my part.
I've also found that adding a nickel sized portion of Noxzema facial cleansing cream(I use the walmart brand) to your soap, while lathering it, makes it creamier and slicker.
Arko shave sticks are about $1.50 each on Amazon and are good. You wet your face, dip the tip of the stick in the water, and rub all over your face until you have a nice coating of soap all over. Then you face lather with the brush. This will give enough lather for about 3 passes.
You can even shave using just Noxzema. Apply it like you would the soap with the brush. It works great.
Washing/wetting your fact pre-shave is very important as if helps to soften the beard. Letting the lather sit on your face a minute to a few minutes(I've gone as long as 15 minutes) before you shave also helps out.
The key to getting a good shave with a DE is proper technique. Use the angle that works best for you, don't apply pressure to the razor, let the blade do the work, and don't rush. Use multiple, short, gentle strokes. No face long strokes like with a cartridge razor.
The reason for the popularity of cartridge razors is that they don't require you to know how to shave. They allow you to use poor technique.:thumbdn: Proper shaving is a skill that anyone can learn, but it is a skill nonetheless.
Do a couple of passes with the grain followed by a pass across the grain. Then, if you want/need, do a pass against the grain. Don't stretch the skin too much, especially when going against the grain. You don't want ingrown hairs.
Wet and lather between passes.

Use a pre-shave oil before you lather, if you like. Sometimes I do, other times I don't.
Pay attention to the direction of hair growth. This will determine the direction you need to shave for your WTG/XTG/ATG passes.
Relax and enjoy your shave. Don't rush. It's relaxing ME time, if you let it be.

Gollnick has described it as a Zen-like experience, and I agree.:thumbup:

Wash off your face well after shaving. Use witch hazel afterward. Let it dry and apply your aftershave cream, gel, balm, or splash.
I like Aqua Velva Ice Blue, Master Bay Rum, and Gillette Series Sensitive Skin Gel. The cooling sensation of menthol in some aftershaves can be very refreshing in the summer.:D
Aftershaves containing glycerin tend to be more moisturizing.
You can also use your Van der Hagen soap like a shave stick, rubbing it all over your face and face lathering, if that works better for you.
If you nick yourself, you can use an alum block like a styptic pencil. Wet your face with cold water and rub it all over your face. Let it dry, then rinse it off. It works well for nicks and weepers, yet it stings less than styptic pencils.:thumbup:

Using a stypic pencil on your scalp after nicking it while head shaving, will make you want to slam your hand in the door.:eek:
 
Back on the topic of soap, I have been using The Art Of Shaving unscented soap daily for a few weeks now and it is absolutely superb.

I find that it pays to add a few drops of Glycerin into the mix as it helps my skin from being too dry afterwards. I also stopped using that damned Alum block which, despite mountains of recommendations, was definitely
bad for my skin leaving it red, tight feeling and really dried out. Your mileage may vary, as it's popularly versed, was the plain fact there.

I've also discovered that all this media about 'needing' a certain type of brush is a lot of talking in the wind too. While I have to throw my hands up and agree that a firmer brush is generally handier with soap, with an individual approach and the lost art of taking a little time, I can get the same rich lather with a soft brush.

Mark
 
Another update:
I now have about 2.5 months of shaving using a brush and soap\creme instead of the aerosol can stuff.
Soaps tried so far:
VDH glycerin and Deluxe soaps
Williams
Soap bought from ebay seller Artifact Soapworks
CO Bigelow Creme
QED sample pack of three different scents in one oz tubs.

All will give good lather when I pay attention to what I am doing, William was the hardest to lather. The glycerin based soaps left my skin feeling better, not as dry.

Just received a shipment from Amazon with a Tweezerman Badger brush and a couple of pucks of Edwin Jagger soaps. I have not as of yet tried the new soaps.

Not sure if this change will continue to the end of my life but I already have enough soap to last me more than a year with shaving every day.

Did I mention that I won an auction for a NIB Old Spice mug and soap?
This stuff can get addictive, like knife buying.
 
Wait till you start buying vintage razors, I was happy with my EJ89L till someone gave me a 1950s Gillette Rocket, now I have two more vintage razors and am still looking. What I really want to find is a 1960s Gillette Aristocrat (AKA a gold plated Slim Adjustable) and I am going back to the flea market next weekend to pick up another Rocket and some Czech travel razor I saw there. I think I may have RAD syndrome:(
 
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