Shaving with the Rolls

David Martin

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I have a 1953 Rolls Razor (for those who know)and have been using it for several shaves now . Its the Viscount model and it gives a good shave . This razor was not made for a life time, it was made to be handed down to several sons (generations) . It expresses a different thinking of that era . To make things as good as can be . This was before the Gillett disposable blades came along . Never even need to buy blades any more . This razor is really cool . DM :thumbup:
 
Is this the one that comes in a kind of silver-plated box with a built in strop?
You stop the blade using some handle contraption and then unscrew the blade and put it in the razor?

If so, I had one as a kid (bought in a junk shop) but was too young to shave:D
 
LOL. I hadn't thought of these in years. My dad gave me one before I went to Vietnam, one that he had carried in Korea (and possibly before). It disappeared from my gear in a rear area while I was in the bush, and I was really, really upset.

Actually, while not as convenient as a safety razor, it worked surprisingly well. Are they still making them?
 
Yes, thats the one . Mine has a stone on one lid and a leather strop on the other lid and the devise has a handle that attaches to the blade which rolls it on the stone or strop which ever you choose at a percise angle, looks to be 12 or 13* . Thus, sharpening it for the next shave . The company was bought out in 1954, and revamped to make washing machines so the last razors were from 53 . If you have one hang on to it as they are scarce yet work/shave quite well . So, now I'm helping to diminsh our land fills . HA !
Plus don't have to buy razors or blades anymore . DM ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls_Razor
 
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Ok, I've now been shaving with the Rolls for 3 mos. and have made a few adjustments .
First the stone which came with the razor is not fine enough to put a shaving edge on the razor . So, after trying several methods to improve this, I've settled on sharpening it on a black Arkansas stone . This puts a fine enough edge on the razor to give a great shave . Better than a single edged Bic razor . Then the strop that comes in the kit is made of cork not leather . So, I replaced that with good leather, cut to fit and loaded with the green rouge . Bingo ! It gives a nice close shave now ! These are a great device to shave with . I thoroughly enjoy shaving with mine . If you find one buy it . DM
 
You may find some benefit in the information Here and I think there are some youtube videos about
Rolls Autostrop razors too.

I personally find razors interesting as products because the need, to shave a man's face, has remained largely unchanged for thousands of years. There really are few -- certainly not zero, but few -- other tools where the task has remained unchanged for so long and all evolution is purely in the tool itself.

In any technology, historians of technology look for "inflection points," places where sudden and fundamental change has occurred, something which "changed everything." For example, the development of the internal combustion engine changed everything in ground transportation; the precursors of the internal combustion engine, horses, steam engines, push carts, are all now all but relegated to nostalgia status (we still use push carts for small tasks, but we switch to engines very quickly).

In shaving, I don't really see any inflection points. Despite thousands of years of "progress," the basic principle remains the same, a blade "shaves" the hair off whether that blade is moved by hand or by a motor, in a linear or in a circular motion. We've made differential improvements in the blade and in how it's moved, but the fundamental principle remains the same; there has been no "this changes everything" inflection point.

One -- not the only, but one -- characteristic of a true inflection point is that it splits technology in half; it creates a clear and fundamental divide. A true inflection points split time in half; there is a clear "before" and "after" time.

Really, I see only three significant changes over thousands of years of shaving technology and I class neither as a true inflection point.

The first is the change to electric motors to move the blade. Today, razors divide into two broad categories: those which move the blade by hand and those which move the blade by electric motor. The development of the electric shaver split technology in half; it created a clear divide. But it didn't split time because both forks have now coexisted for over 80 years, five generations, and neither shows any signs of going away soon.

The second major division I see is between disposable blades and those intended to be sharpened and reused many times.

The final major division I see is between the "open razor" (embodied most often by the "straight" razor), and the "safety razor" in which some structure controls the exposure of the blade.

The Rolls Autostrop razors are interesting because they straddle two of these divisions.
 
I can go for two more shaves just stropping the blade before requiring to return to the stone . Although the 3rd shave wasn't great just good . So, I learned its edge retention limits and have some insight as to the unit's longevity . DM
 
david i used to collect old strops, straight razors, & the many types of devices sold as disposable blade & portable straight razor sharpening devices. the rolls was the cream of the crop & was in such a beautiful case that it always caught lots of attention.you are to be commended for taking the time to learn how to use one, i certainly never had the patience or enough disposable blood.gollnick you certainly offered a great perspective on shaving, if i understand your premises then the introduction of the synthesizer was a point of inflection in music.thanks guys for your info.
dennis
 
Dennis, Thanks for your kind words . Using 'disposable blood' is correct ! Ha ! As there is a learning curve in using this razor . Having shaved exclusively with the Rolls since August . Late November's shaves marked 2 mile stones for me, 1) was the closest shaves and 2) was no nics or cuts . Which happens easily and in the same areas . So, I had to increase caution and wait 3-4 days between shaves for the cuts to heal . Again, your correct the case is quite striking and tastfully done . Beyond the flavoring of our manufactoring today . DM
 
Just saw one of these yesterday in a shop & looked at it briefly.
Knew nothing about it, but it certainly was different & looked interesting.
Not sure I'd want to use it, but now that I know it's history & how it works, I may have to go back & look at it again. It looked to be in very nice shape & I think they wanted $32 for it.
Thanks for the timely thread. :)
 
Mick, Thanks . If you have the slightest interest I highly recommend you go back and purchase that Rolls as they're going for much more that on the bay . Even if you don't use it, still its a 1st class gift for someone interested in sharpening for shaving . These for sure reflect a different era of craftsmanship and were made to not just last a lifetime . But to be passed down from generation to generation . DM
 
Mick, Thanks . If you have the slightest interest I highly recommend you go back and purchase that Rolls as they're going for much more that on the bay . Even if you don't use it, still its a 1st class gift for someone interested in sharpening for shaving . These for sure reflect a different era of craftsmanship and were made to not just last a lifetime . But to be passed down from generation to generation . DM

Thanks Dave. I'm big on craftsmanship myself, so I'm interested for that reason alone. If it's still there when I go back, I'll definitely grab it. I'll let you know.
Thanks again.
 
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