Originally Posted by sopmodm4
Well my arrogant friend,up in North Dakota (where I have been working outdoors for the last 10 days straight)I suspect that in less than 3 hours,dismounted and 100 miles from resources of any kind,without any mound,hole or shelter to stop the 40-50mph wind from impregnating your cheap clothes with frozen precipitation and arctic type windchill temperatures dropping to -65F you would lose your arrogance quickly because you would be quite dead.
People who are from there,prepared in much the same way you have suggested(Carharts with waterproofing,discount store snowsuits)and have had to evacuate their homes due to weather induced power outages.Even with the benefit of shelter they could not hold out longer than 24 hours.
They have had to relocate to shelters with generators and jet heaters while I am comfortable and secure working outside in that same environment every day for almost a month!
You should learn from experienced people, rather than make assertions based in fantasy if you really intend to survive.If you are just doing the "Survivalist Thing" to abate some personal insecurity then please,by all means continue to tell people who live and work in "life and death survival conditions" just how you would "last longer" than they do.
sopmodm4: I humbly apologize for my offensive remarks. I truly did not intend to sound arrogant, nor did I intend to diminish and belittle your first-hand knowledge and experience. There was an unusual dryness and lack of personal information in your original post, which I misinterpreted as indicative of an advertisement or promotion of Northern Outfitters. The fault is mine, and I am sorry.
As for the products offered by Northern Outfitters, they appear to be very high quality winter gear. This gear is intended for the most severe winter conditions imaginable, and I do not doubt that it performs superbly. I suppose that I was set off by the question you asked in your post: "Do you have REAL cold weather clothing?" I took this to mean that you felt that all other winter gear was inferior, and useless. I fear that there has been mis-comunication on both sides here. In your first post, you did not state that you were working in such severe wintry conditions. I am well aware that North Dakota has some incredibly nasty weather, and that sub-zero arctic conditions are normal. The blizzards in North Dakota are legendary. You are correct in stating that my regular winter gear would be inadequate in such a situation. However, it is not normal for a person to be so deep in frozen country such as that without some sort of transportation or supplies. It is not likely that I, nor many others here, are in danger of being stranded in such a miserable, deserted wasteland. Were I to live and work in the same area as yourself, my common sense (and paranoia) would force me to buy adequate arctic gear, such as your own. In that situation, I would consider the extra expense negligible when compared to the necessity of possessing such capable, high quality, winter outerwear.
However, as it is, I do not see myself becoming stranded, without supplies, and without proper gear, in the middle of a blizzard, 100 miles from anything, in North Dakota, anytime soon. If there was a remote possibility that I would be facing such horrible arctic conditions, I would most assuredly buy myself the appropriate gear, and it would be well worth the extra cost. Where I am located, however, the temperature rarely ever drops below -20 degrees Fahrenheit in the winter. Thus, I am able to work quite comfortably in my own winter gear. I will stress that my gear is not, by any means,
cheap crap; it is simply less expensive.
As for your idea that I am just doing the "Survivalist Thing" to abate some personal insecurity, I assure you that this is not the case. I take a great deal of pride in the fact that I have the knowledge necessary to survive in a desperate situation. I am not closed to new knowledge, nor am I set firmly in my ways. On the contrary, I am constantly learning and refining my skills, and I welcome new information and the knowledge and experience offered by others. I have much yet to learn. I would very much like to learn what you know, and to experience what you have while working in North Dakota. I am curious to know what kind of work you are doing in such rough country. If you would be so kind as to do so, sharing your knowledge would be beneficial to all of us here.
Again, please accept my apology. I do not wish to be on unpleasant terms with anyone here, and I do my best to offer my knowledge and opinions for the benefit of the forum.
Us knife enthusiasts must stick together, after all.
Sincerely,
TheSurvivalist
. PS dont take my post for a carhart ad 
not what I'm trying to do. one add on, the winter boots on that site good to -20 look real good for a $100 but the soles look like they are a couple inches thick not fun to walk in in my opinion.
But anything near 0 to -20 would be to warm for that stuff IMO. Even with Windchills. I haven't done Everest, but I have seen plenty of film of it and not once have I seen gear like that. It has almost always been shell layering system.
