Shield Variations-What gives?

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I have come to really appreciate the words of wisdom and knowledge of the good folks over here and value the knowledge gained. As I get more involved with slipjoints I have come to appreciate all the little nuiances of what makes a slipjoint a slipjoint. I have noticed that many different slippies and makers (both custom and production) use an inlaid shield of some sort. My question are...
1. How many shield variations are there?
2. What determines or what does a certain shield reflect in meaning when a maker uses or choses it to put on a slippy?
and lastly...
Does a shield perpetuate value to a particular kind of slipjoint?
Thanks again for any insight offered!
 
I like to use "Blades guide to knives and their values" when researching a new pattern or shield. If you have a chance to flip thru the pages you will quickly see there is an almost unlimited variety of shapes and variations of shields for slipjoints.

As a maker sometimes I am asked to install a certain shield, other times its left up to me. Some patterns seem to scream for a certain shield while others accept many different shields and retain good looks and flowing lines. I think an example of a slip being associated with a certain shield would be the sowbelly pattern. Remington seemed to use a acorn shield on quite a few of its scout knives and boys knives. And of course Remington made famous the "bullet" shield.

I have noticed some custom makers seem to gravitate to a certain shield not unlike the factory knives using their "trademark" shield. Case for example uses a oval shield in many of their knives.

As far as value I am not sure how to answer that one.

Hope this helps a bit and welcome to the wonderful world of slipjoints!

Ken
 
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Sir, Good Question but I don't know of any answer to it. Perhaps a Knife maker could explain the reason for a certain shield used on different patterns.

Posted before I seen Ken's post. Good explanation Ken.
 
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As a consumer, it makes a big difference to me. If a knife has a shield, I like stylish sleek looking shields that blend into the pattern. Myself, I don't care for round ones, colored ones, or even a gold one if the bolsters are nickel silver. Take a look at some old catalogs from the turn of the century. Or look at what the Bose crew does. Those guys put the T in tradition, with their own personal flair.
 
Looking through hundreds of knives in doing my research for patterns, I've noticed a few things that might add to the conversation:

1. Whatever kind of shield you could imagine, can, and may already have been done on a knife. There are an infinite variety of shields with new ones being used all the time.

2. Early on, shields were omitted from a wide variety of knives. In looking through the books, handles like stag and stag-bone, and even some jigged bone, were not made with shields. Probably due to the texture and the beauty of the handle material.

I think some shields were omitted in some cases because the knives were being made for, and sold to, a wide variety of people. Looking at old ads from the 1880-1945, you see lots of knives without shields and the same knives in different ads. It may have been a cost factor back in the day when everything was done by hand. I have also noticed that many German made knives had no shields. Can't say as I know why or why not. Maybe shields are more American in nature. Any historians out there that can offer an opinion??

The "meaning" for some makers was brand recognition. If you saw a particular shield, you automatically knew who made the knife. No need to look at the tang stamp, you could tell by the shield.

The meaning for some was nothing more than ornamenting a bland or inexpensive handle material to make the knife look better and sell for a bit more.

The meaning now, for many, is tradition or the love affair someone has with a traditional pattern, manufacturer or maker.

Some manufacturers now use no shield because of the delicacy or texture of the handle material. This would apply to materials like black pearl, gold pearl or mammoth ivory which are becoming more difficult to obtain and already have enough appeal without the shield.

And some use the shields to express originality and their artistic flair, as in the gold shields and interesting shapes you see in the custom makers' knives today.

3. Value is subjective. In traditional, collectible knives, the shields are important because of the history of the manufacturer or maker. For makers today, the shield, or lack of one, may be their new history and tradition that users come to expect and appreciate. I have seen some old knives that are true masterpieces of engineering and they are valued for that quality alone. Some knives scream for a shield. Some obviously don't need one. The value is in your eyes, or the eyes of the user.

It's completely up to you. After all, and I say this almost every day, knives are like cars and girls, it's a love affair. It's all in the eyes of the beholder. I think that might be one of the things that makes knife using and collecting so much fun and so popular.

Thanks for reading my rants. Thanks for the opportunity to throw my two cents in!!

Keep Care,

Pappy
 

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Wow! You guys are great! Thanks so much for the insight! The reason I ask about shields is because I've seen some great customs made and some makers use variuos shields on the knives they make. I thought maybe it had to do with the style/pattern of the knife but as many of you so eloquently put it-it's all about style, artistic flair and originality.
 
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