SHIROGOROV 95 "T" Pricing?

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Hi,

I have always wanted one of these SHIROGOROV 95 "T"'s. But I don't want to pay more than the knife is worth. I've heard they cost about $400-500, but see them selling for more like $800-900. Is this $800-900 actually a fair price?

I personally feel that a Sebenza 21 or XM-18 is worth it's $400ish price range. But could this 95 T be worth twice the price?

Large Sebenza 21 - $410 + XM-18 3.5 - $425 = $835 for both.

Or one SHIROGOROV 95 T for $850. Is it really worth twice the cost of the other knives?

I've never personally handled a Shirogorov so I can't make the call.
 
Shirogorov secondary prices were coming out of the stratosphere and then Shirogorov increased their prices, so the secondary market has correspondingly increased. I want to say I saw somewhere that the T pattern has been discontinued, but this might be hearsay.

Is it worth it? Well the fit and finish is about as perfect as machines can achieve. Is it special enough to justify the cost? That's the better question.
 
Misanthropia said:
Shirogorov secondary prices were coming out of the stratosphere and then Shirogorov increased their prices, so the secondary market has correspondingly increased. I want to say I saw somewhere that the T pattern has been discontinued, but this might be hearsay.

Is it worth it? Well the fit and finish is about as perfect as machines can achieve. Is it special enough to justify the cost? That's the better question.
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Yes indeed you've raised a better question, haha!

I've also heard that the 95T was discontinued. But I've noticed a certain retailer now has some in stock, they are new with m390 - $850.00
 
It's all relative. How bad do you want it? I just aquired a Custom Division 95T #191 and paid $1800 for it. But, I wanted it more than any knife at that time. So like I said it's all relative. You will never get a new one for the "Russian" prices so it all comes down to how bad do you want it. As far as being worth the price well, I didn't hesitate to spend that $1800 and couldn't be happier with my purchase!
 
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I would love to have one but just cant pay double what its worth.:eek:
 
Overpriced by miles, but that's really a relative thing anyway.

Everyone wants one, they're hard to get, so you pay twice what can already be argued as "overpriced"

Seems kinda like what was going on with XM's a few years ago....

I wanna try one, but I am gonna learn this time and wait..it doesn't take long in the knife world for something to go from have to have at any price, to available to everyone at half the price.
 
I guess you could ask yourself if you'd rather have a new sebbie and xm, or do you want a shirogorov?

I really love mine. On par with my sebenza for quality. Very nice finish on both the blade and handle. I've been using it non stop since I got it and it looks great.

I bought a bronze ano nudist in s90v. I believe I paid 640. Would I do it all over again?

Yes.

I read so many amazing reviews and almost couldn't believe people's love of this knife. I got one and now I know why. Superb build quality and a very useful blade and obviously a flawless flipper.

S90 has been great for me and I don't care for the "t" pattern so I feel lucky to have bought the one I did.


Also, how was much would you be willing to pay for a sebenza with upgraded steel, bearing pivot and a flipper?

I know it's kind of a silly comparison because Chris Reeve Knives doesn't produce flippers, but they are on the same level quality/fit/finish wise.
 
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I think the main reason they cost so much in the states is because people continue to pay that much for them here. Supply and demand at it's finest. Low supply/ high demand. There's only one website in America, I believe, that sells them new from the manufacturer. Recon1.com. If they were made in America, they would cost a fraction of what they do. Just like how they are much cheaper in Russia. Many Russians are making a killing off these things selling them here. We want what we can't easily obtain and will pay for that... I did and will...
 
"Many Russians are making a killing off these things selling them here."

This is only my observation and might not be true. Don't want to rub anyone the wrong way lol.
 
Shirogorov makes a great knife. Many American manufacturers price their very well-made knives in the same price range. If they're over-priced for you then they're over-priced. This is the knife world. There is room for everyone.
 
Thank you all for your replies.

I get the feeling as tho this knife is a little inflated in the price department, with that said I still want one :)
 
Coming from someone who has tried just about everything you can think of in that price range, I have to say the Shirogorov model 95 is special - the newer ones (2013 and newer) especially have the best action of any knife I've ever handled. I have several...they flip like none other, and once properly broken in, the blade moves so smoothly and freely that it will fall closed under it's own weight once the lock is disengaged (yet the lockup remains 110% rock solid). I don't get how they do it, but it's cool. And then there's the looks...best looking flipper out there, IMO. For me it's easily worth the price of a couple Sebenzas or Hinderers (which I also own and enjoy).

I must also say, I've owned dozens of the Flipper 95 model and the consistency in quality, including fit and finish, is on par with Chris Reeve and the like. They've never failed to blow me away, and I've never noticed a manufacturing defect, no matter how slight. Some older ones that I've purchased as NIB needed the pivot turned a bit to loosen it up, but that's to be expected with knives that sat in a box, closed up, for a couple years or more.

My overall impression is that quality control seems to be as impeccable as the design and execution. They might have a few equals on the planet, but you couldn't convince me there's a better knife manufacturer.
 
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Coming from someone who has tried just about everything you can think of in that price range, I have to say the Shirogorov model 95 is special - the newer ones (2013 and newer) especially have the best action of any knife I've ever handled. I have several...they flip like none other, and once properly broken in, the blade moves so smoothly and freely that it will fall closed under it's own weight once the lock is disengaged (yet the lockup remains 110% rock solid). I don't get how they do it, but it's cool. And then there's the looks...best looking flipper out there, IMO. For me it's easily worth the price of a couple Sebenzas or Hinderers (which I also own and enjoy).

I must also say, I've owned dozens of the Flipper 95 model and the consistency in quality, including fit and finish, is on par with Chris Reeve and the like. They've never failed to blow me away, and I've never noticed a manufacturing defect, no matter how slight. Some older ones that I've purchased as NIB needed the pivot turned a bit to loosen it up, but that's to be expected with knives that sat in a box, closed up, for a couple years or more.

My overall impression is that quality control seems to be as impeccable as the design and execution. They might have a few equals on the planet, but you couldn't convince me there's a better knife manufacturer.
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I couldn't have said it better myself! I was apprehensive about buying my first Shiro but once I bit the bullet, all apprehension went out the window. Now I have 3 production Shiros (F3, Neon Lite, and 111 CF) and one Custom Division 95T. And I'm still looking for more. They are one of my favorite knife makers now without a doubt! Ray Laconico might be tied!
 
Corhoff said:
I think the main reason they cost so much in the states is because people continue to pay that much for them here. Supply and demand at it's finest. Low supply/ high demand. There's only one website in America, I believe, that sells them new from the manufacturer. Recon1.com. If they were made in America, they would cost a fraction of what they do. Just like how they are much cheaper in Russia. Many Russians are making a killing off these things selling them here. We want what we can't easily obtain and will pay for that... I did and will...
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Corhoff said:
"Many Russians are making a killing off these things selling them here."

This is only my observation and might not be true. Don't want to rub anyone the wrong way lol.
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Your observations are pretty much spot on, Corhoff. Shirogorov sales and pricing are the current paradigms for Supply and Demand as most all Shiro transactions--new or used--are basically on the secondary market.

I find only one other than the previously mentioned mainstream dealer--KnifeCenter, a registered BF dealer--selling Shiros from this side of the pond. A Shiro search brings up one out-of-stock model at GPKnives. (Vladimir_K is a solid seller and a registered BF dealer and I would be remiss in not mentioning him as he plays by the rules here.)

As far as I can tell, Shiro sales from Russia are made by individuals buying knives retail over there, marking them up (significantly), and selling them over here on the BF Exchange, Facebook, Instagram, and other sites. There is one Russian dealer with a website that may be an authorized dealer that also has the highest prices I find anywhere.

Anyway, in what's essentially an open, secondary market, Supply and Demand is definitely king. If there aren't a lot around and you want one, you'll pay as much as you are willing or able to get your knife. S&D is tempered, though, by the financial needs of sellers, particularly private individuals, and there are deals to be had on the Exchange. There are more Shiros around every day and the prices do seem to be a bit better lately on the not-so-rare or not-so-new models.

JR88FAN's post #8 above is also relevant and spot-on as well. A bit of patience is well-advised, although that hasn't always been my strong suit. :rolleyes:

I started The Bears' Den--Shirogorov Showcase thread a couple week's ago to share pictures and thoughts about these great knives. As I said about them in the OP, "...they share the seemingly contradictory qualities of being both over-priced and completely worth it."
 
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