Shirogorov, what if I need service or parts in USA?

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Jumbi8

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Complete newby here.

I just ordered a Shirogorov Neon ultra lite and a Shirogorov Hation lite red CF and waiting for them to arrive.

I was curious if anyone can tell me if I wanted to buy any spare parts, say if I managed to loose a bearing, or had any issues with the knife, who/where would I go to get some help? Is there anyone here in the states, or is the only answer to send it back to Russia with love.

I suspect there is not much help available locally, but just wanted to check.
 
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matt009au said:
If you ordered it from recon1 then you just send it back to them. If you ordered elsewhere then I'm pretty sure back to rusky land it goes.
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I've seen that Monkey Edge sells a few, don't know if they're a dealer or not.
If you didn't buy from an authorized dealer, you'll have to learn to read Russian and send it back to Shirogorov in Russia. Or, look on the exchange to see who sells them and is in Russia. I believe there is two members here. They probably can head you in the right direction.
 
It needs to be sent to Russia I'm afraid. I have changed some emails with Mr. Shirogorov he will provide you with some instrustions how to do it.
Easier is contact recon1 if they can send it in instead of you, much easier.
 
Very good.

Thank you everyone for your information.

I bought a neon ultra lite from rusblades and a new hation carbon from a member on this forum.

They have not yet arrived, so I was just doing my research should the need arise if I were to lose a bearing during cleaning or something.

Of course I will only open it over a pie pan type thingy so as to not lose any of the free bearings.
 
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Its always good to research a knife first and only THEN buy it, should problem arise under these circumstances (i.e buying a knife from for example Russia).

Jumbi8 said:
Of course I will only open it over a pie pan type thingy so as to not loose any of the free bearings.
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Assume you mean disassemble.

(I doubt merely opening the knife will make it fall apart, Shirogorov supposedly being okay quality).

Why would you want to disassemble your new (not yet arrived) knife?
 
Yes of course I meant disassemble, not just flicking it open and expecting the ball bearings to go flying. Come on man ;), lets be serious here, these things are the finest production knives, or at least among the top production knives currently in the world. I have seen the youtube videos of how to disassemble them and it shows the ball bearings are not captured, hence the need for some catch basin "thingy."

First off, this is just a pocket knife. It is a tool, it will not be a safe queen, it will get used every day. I use my things. I disassemble and examine and reassemble my things. Mechanical devices sometimes require "maintenance." I'm not afraid to modify things either...
My Rolex 1665 Sea Dweller Great White goes diving in the ocean, as will my 6538 when it comes back from the watchsmith. I took apart one of my supercharged Jaguars and modified it to double the boost(I am not a mechanic), I modified my house air conditioner to be 2x more efficient with water mist spray(I am not an electrician), etc, etc, so opening up a simple edc flipper pocket knife from time to time for cleaning is nothing to get nervous about.

Why would I want to open it up at some point? Maintenance IS recommended from time to time for mechanical things. I would occasionally want to disassemble it to clean it to remove pocket gunk build up which I expect would accumulate because I plan on using it as my edc.

It was safe to assume of course I could always send a $700++ knife back to the factory if any issues arose, my question really was are there any sources for extra parts, or any places/dealers that do service work here in the states that would be more convenient and have faster turnaround than sending it back to Russia.
 
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Jumbi8 said:
First off, it is just a pocket knife. It is a tool, it will not be a safe queen, it will get used every day. I use my things. I disassemble and examine and reassemble my things. I'm not afraid to modify things either...
My Rolex 1665 Sea Dweller Great White goes diving in the ocean, as will my 6538 when it comes back from the watchsmith. I took apart one of my supercharged Jaguars and modified it to double the boost(I am not a mechanic), I modified my house air conditioner to be 2x more efficient(I am not an electrician), etc, etc, so opening up a simple flipper pocket knife is nothing to get nervous about.

Yes of course I meant disassemble, not just flicking it open and expecting the ball bearings to go flying. Come on man, these things are the finest production knives, or at least among the top production knives currently in the world. Don't be silly...

I would occasionally want to dissasemble it to clean it to remove pocket gunk build up which I expect would accumulate because I plan on using it as my edc.

It was safe to assume of course I could always send a $700++ knife back to the factory if any issues arose, my question really was are there any sources for extra parts, or any places/dealers that do service work here in the states that would be more convenient and have faster turnaround than sending it back to Russia.
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I would'nt assume, that you need to take it apart just for the occasional clean, i.e. if you'd gotten pocket lint into it. In fact, I'd probably advise against taking it apart just for normal pocket lint build-up in most knives.

Just use a can of compressed air or what ever air you have access to and/or Q-tips etc.

'Finest production knives' - so you keep saying.
Im in no postion to dispute that - I havent yet held, what I'd consider the ultimate production folder sans pareil.

Not sure, as to why mention a lit of specific brands of other property - Rolex watches and Jags.

But then I never much did cotton to either. Neither Rolex'es nor (modern) generic Jags (see below).

Jags of course HAVE to be taken apart - they are English:D. I only ever cared about the vintage ones; D and the E Types....and at a stretch maybe the contemporary Eagle Speedster.

I would'nt say no to an Eagle Speedster (as a matter of fact, thats an undertatement, Id very much like one).

I like the exotics over generic cars though - an aquiantance buys old pre-WWII fire engines and makes OTT gorgeous touring machines. Now, thats a hoot.
But thats neither here nor there in a knife talk.

Would'nt know about diving with Rolex watches. Ive had hundreds of watches, Girard Perregaux (maybe my favorites), Panerai, Rolex etc etc but sold off a slew of Rolex watches, as neither that brand nor the watches themselves never did anything for me. I never much wore them. I was never much for artificially perceived value high volume production Veblen goods - and Rolex churn out a shed load of units annually (app a million watches per year). Mostly machine made.
But again not much relevant to knives.

Fortunately, Shirogov makes significantly less knives than a million annually and not all machine made parts, so there is still an air of exclusivity about them and they are no doubt of high quality.

As for nice Russian folders, I'd like this Sinkevich. Is that too much to ask - I think perhaps not:D

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BladeScout said:
Why would you want to disassemble your new (not yet arrived) knife?
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Because that's what all those cool YouTube reviewers do...

On a more realistic note, I agree that there is little need to disassemble knives for routine cleaning/maintenance. The idea/practice can probably be blamed on Chris Reeve.
 
I just finished smooth walling a room in my house, lots of dust from sanding the mud gets everywhere, I looked and felt like a powdered donut after that. You can be certain that my flipper needed a cleaning after that and got one, it only takes a few minutes. Blowing on it with compressed air will not get it clean in this situation and drywall dust is hyper corrosive.

Chris Reeve knives use grease.
They are unsealed.
Therefore, with use/exposure the grease over time gets contaminated with particulate which can become abrasive.
Therefore it benefits from maintenance.
I prefer it when a manufacturer encourages owners to do their own maintenance and consider this in their designs.

My point was it is not a big deal to disassemble and reassemble something so simple as a pocket knife, just that given the bearings are loose, if I were to lose one, where would I get a replacement, and if it was available, I wouldn't mind having a few spares handy.

My point about using the vintage rolex to dive is that is what they were designed to do, they were tool watches, not just man jewelry like they have become. My point about modifying the jaguar, is that they are much more complicated, but it can still be done for fun, improvement, and benefit.
 
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Jumbi8 said:
Very good.

Thank you everyone for your information.

I bought a neon ultra lite from rusblades and a new hation carbon from a member on this forum.

They have not yet arrived, so I was just doing my research should the need arise if I were to lose a bearing or something.

Of course I will only open it over a pie pan type thingy so as to not lose any of the free bearings.
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You know, there's a lot of info right here on BFC on all brands of knives. If you haven't yet made this place your main choice of finding useful info, you may want to start. Personally, I don't mess with UTube that much.
A quick search and this came up, it explains all the ins and outs of Shirogorov knives.

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/the-bears-den-shirogorov-showcase.1432744/
You're welcome
 
BladeScout said:
I would'nt assume, that you need to take it apart just for the occasional clean, i.e. if you'd gotten pocket lint into it. In fact, I'd probably advise against taking it apart just for normal pocket lint build-up in most knives.

Just use a can of compressed air or what ever air you have access to and/or Q-tips etc.

'Finest production knives' - so you keep saying.
Im in no postion to dispute that - I havent yet held, what I'd consider the ultimate production folder sans pareil.

Not sure, as to why mention a lit of specific brands of other property - Rolex watches and Jags.

But then I never much did cotton to either. Neither Rolex'es nor (modern) generic Jags (see below).

Jags of course HAVE to be taken apart - they are English:D. I only ever cared about the vintage ones; D and the E Types....and at a stretch maybe the contemporary Eagle Speedster.

I would'nt say no to an Eagle Speedster (as a matter of fact, thats an undertatement, Id very much like one).

I like the exotics over generic cars though - an aquiantance buys old pre-WWII fire engines and makes OTT gorgeous touring machines. Now, thats a hoot.
But thats neither here nor there in a knife talk.

Would'nt know about diving with Rolex watches. Ive had hundreds of watches, Girard Perregaux (maybe my favorites), Panerai, Rolex etc etc but sold off a slew of Rolex watches, as neither that brand nor the watches themselves never did anything for me. I never much wore them. I was never much for artificially perceived value high volume production Veblen goods - and Rolex churn out a shed load of units annually (app a million watches per year). Mostly machine made.
But again not much relevant to knives.

Fortunately, Shirogov makes significantly less knives than a million annually and not all machine made parts, so there is still an air of exclusivity about them and they are no doubt of high quality.

As for nice Russian folders, I'd like this Sinkevich. Is that too much to ask - I think perhaps not:D

o7Q2Ca5.png
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Stop posting those!
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ZT, make them!
 
I don't know why people think Shirogorov bearings are some proprietary or unique bearing. They are standard 1.5mm stainless steel bearings that can be purchased cheaply. You can even get a pack of 10 ceramic bearings for around 2 dollars on eBay. You can confirm the dimensions of the bearing by taking a caliper to the 20 other bearings on your NeOn if you do end up losing one. I guarantee you it won't be the end of the world.

If you do have other issues with the knife (lockup, action, spa treatment) then the certificate included in the box if it was purchased at recon 1 is your ticket or you can send the knife to russia yourself. If you choose the later it doesn't matter if you have a CoA, the CoA just allows you to let recon 1 handle it. I prefer to hand the knives in personally at shows such as USN Gathering or Blade so I don't have to deal with shipping to Russia and waiting a month and risk Russia customs. If you can't make it to a show see if there's a friend that can :)
 
You get the prize for the best response e-v-e-r!

I had not thought if that. Yes of course, they are just plain steel bearings. I am very appreciative for you pointing this out. I'll break out the ol mitutoya when these knives arrive.
 
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Guys you can clean your knife without taking it apart. Buy one of those zippo lighter fluid bottles with the little squirting top. Spray the lighter fluid into tight areas you can’t clean because you can’t reach there by other means. This will flush out those areas without risking rust.
 
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