Short Blade Shootout - Including Gamestalker

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After doing the Hollow Handle Shootout I realized how much fun it was comparing multiple blades rather than just doing a single knife review, they seem much more informative as well as much more work, well worth it once all is said and done.

I'll be comparing 3 knives in this shootout, all with short blades, 4 inch or less.

The Contenders are: Randall Fireman, Tops XCEST Alpha and Kabar JAB Gamestalker.

First let's take a look at the knives and their sheaths. As you can see all 3 are quite different. Varying thickness, handle styles, and costs. The Randall is the largest measuring in at 4 inches in length and .25 inches wide. The Tops XCEST is is .188" thick and 3 1/8" long. Gamestalker is .188" thick and 4" long.

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Both the Tops and Kabar come with MOLLE compatible sheaths with pockets on the front. The Randall comes with a much nicer, high ride leather sheath. As you'll notice about Randall's, they come with the nicest sheaths.

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Onto the testing.

For the first test, as always, I did carving. The Gamestalker excelled at carving, the very high hollow grind worked well. It's very nimble and light in the hand, it's one of my main goto knives for simple carving tasks such as trap parts and trolls. It does have a few drawbacks though. The knobbies on the scales will cause blisters, they need to be sanded off. The handle shape isn't the greatest either, not the most comfortable but doesn't cause any problems. Pushing on the spine of the blade with your thumb will also cause blistering, it's somewhat squard off and thin compared to the other knives in this test.

The Randall was acceptable for carving tasks, it really didn't excel at this, though it was passable. It performed better than its blade thickness and grind would lead you to believe. It definetly isn't the best carver, but it was the most comfortable carver to use. I've come to appreciate the finger grooved Randalls, they feel as if they were made for my hand(Medium Husky and Mechanix gloves fit me snugly, to give you an idea). The back of the spine at a full 1/4" thick was also comfortable to press against with your thumb.

The Tops XCEST is something of a let down when it comes to carving. The grind is extra thick like the Randall, except it has a very thick coating on it. Reminds me of an old paint stirring stick, you can literally carve the coating off with another knife. It seems to require far more work to make simple cuts than I'd prefer. A positive note about this knife, the handle is very comfortable, fits my hand well.

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Next task was making a fuzzy stick and lighting it with a ferro rod using the knife. I was able to light all 3, was only able to use the spine of the Randall on the ferro rod, the other two I used the edge. All worked fine.

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Everyone's favorite again, batonning. I chose 3 pieces of seasoned, somewhat knotty wood again. I had to thump on each knife fairly hard to get these pieces batonned.

Each knife with its piece of wood.
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I beat and beat, and this is the final product, all the pieces are in kindling. I wailed on all the knives, especially the Randall. I beat on it like no ones ever beat on one before, really wish I got that on video. The Randall as the clear winner in this competition, it splits wood like a champ and can take a beating. All the knives worked fine for this, or did they? (ominous music plays)...
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Today I headed out into the woods to finish the shootout. I decided to test cross grain batonning. These short blades can't really be used for chopping, and sometimes things need to be chopped, so batonning it is.

Here are the knives on the downed green tree limb.
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Here is the scene in the aftermath. The Randall did fine with this task, as it did with standard batonning. The Tops did ok, but seemed to take alot more effort to accomplish the same amount of work. As you can see from the pic the Gamestalker didn't do so hot, I pushed this little fella beyond its limits. It sucks that I broke it, I'm fairly certain Kabar will take care of me though.
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Next I made fishing spears. I was able to make servicable spears with both knives. It took more than one try each, I messed a few up, due to the thickness of the blade I imagine. What makes the knives so great for batonning isn't so great when it comes to making spears, how agressively they split. Neither tool would be my first choice for this job, but the task was accomplished.
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The knives after everything is said and done.
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The Randall is clearly the superior knife in this shootout, it also has the superior price tag. All three of the knives have their positive and negatives. I would recommend the Randall if you want an indestructable tool. I would recommend the Gamestalker if you need a knife for carving, skinning and kitchen tasks. I'd suggest the Tops if you don't mind putting some work in it to make it a better tool.

I hope everyone enjoys the shootout and I look forward to feedback as always.
 
Something I wanted to say about the Gamestalker breaking. On BCUSA a fella referred to the failure as an "epic fail" and this is my response.

Yeah it sucks that it broke, check out that stuff I was batonning last night though. That's probably when the failure actually occured and then finally gave today. I wrote in my notes about how hard I was beating on the knives during standard batonning, one of my lines reads, "Surprised I didn't break the Gamestalker." heh

ETA: I don't normally baton wood that's so large and knotty, normally no reason to. I typically stick to wrist size or less for all "real world" purposes, only go bigger when testing or showing off. I take the blame for the Gamestalker breaking, should've known better than to be so rough on it. Or worse, I did know better and did it anyway. Shit happens.

Just so ya know I don't hold anything against Kabar for this knife breaking or if they don't want to replace it.
 
Nice thread.

That break along the grind line is very interesting how the break didnt deviate from the arch right through the sharpening choil and up the grind. I also am glad you understand the difference between breaking something and something breaking. Too many times you see "I WAS SMASHING ROCKS, STUMPS, AND METAL PIPE TO PIECES WITH MY KNIFE AND IT BROKE!!! WHAT A PIECE OF JUNK!" LOL glad this isnt one of those threads.
 
Nice thread.

That break along the grind line is very interesting how the break didnt deviate from the arch right through the sharpening choil and up the grind. I also am glad you understand the difference between breaking something and something breaking. Too many times you see "I WAS SMASHING ROCKS, STUMPS, AND METAL PIPE TO PIECES WITH MY KNIFE AND IT BROKE!!! WHAT A PIECE OF JUNK!" LOL glad this isnt one of those threads.

Thanks, bud.

Yeah I have no problem claiming responsibility. I'm mainly disappointed that I broke one of my favorite knives. I'm fortunate enough to own some damn fine knives and when it comes to certain tasks I'm reaching for one of my Kabars. They are solid performers when used within their parameters.
 
Yah its sad, but hey what can you do? I cant help but wonder if this would have happened if made with 1095CV... 1095CV is some tough stuff that continually performs outside and well beyond its pay grade.
 
It'd be cool if they did make a 1095 version so we could find out.

I'm willing to bet it would have. The batonning I was doing the night before it broke was just too much. When I grabbed the wood I knew it was seasoned but didn't realize how knotty it was, should've chose some other pieces after realizing how bad this stuff was.
 
Please let us know if you try to contact KaBar & what the outcome is. Thanks.

I traded emails with Kabar. At the end of their email was about using a knife for jobs it wasn't intended to do. So I'm not going to waste my money, time, and their time to send back a knife I was straight up beating on.

I would still like for kabar to check the knife out, because the way it broke was odd. I'm not gonna take the time and money to ship it to em without a guaranteed replacement though so I reckon it'll sit on the shelf as a reminder to go easier on the little guys.

ETA: I haven't talked with Tooj or any other "higher up" on the matter. If they want to contact me about it they can, AFAIC I'll leave it as it is. I don't hold anything against Kabar.
 
Understood, but maybe they do want to examine it to see if it was a defect or HT issue. If it was me, i would want to know. Maybe it wasn't you. But, thats just me thinking out loud. I totally understand your position.
 
I might get around to sending it to them a bit later, regardless of what I've already said. I'm really curious about the break myself.

Right now all my "fun money" is tied up in new "shootout' knives, blade swap, giveaways, etc lol

ETA: I doubt it broke, when it broke, if ya know what I mean. The wood I was cross grain batonning is green, kinda tough but not too bad. I also had the belly on the blade in the wood so I don't think where it broke was acting as a fulcrum point <--I think that's what I mean...lol

I think the damage was done during the standard batonning. Then it just happened to crack in half while the next day.

That's my idea anyway.

ETA Again: On another note that Randall is one heck of a knife, it's tough! It's definetly not the best knife for outdoors/bushcraft tasks but it's one I can't put down. It's very basic as far as Randalls are concerned, maybe that's why I like using it so much. I wrote down in my notes. "I beat it like a borrowed Becker." I give my Beckers hell and they ask for more, that's one of my favorite things about them. It's nice having a Randall that's similar. Looking at it and holding it makes me think of a BK 2.
 
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