Shotgun & AR combo?

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I am building up a combo that I would like to be my go to in the event of Zombies, to be funny. I would like y'alls input here. i have done a TON of research but I am now asking around for input. there is always that one person who may say something they feel is insignificant but may make think differently about my decision.

Shotgun:
I have a 870 and a couple of mossberge pumps. I have gotten o the point where I prefer semi-auto's. i know, I know. pumps are best for home defense and such. To be honest though, I use pumps and semi autos hunting and I have NEVER had any issues with my Benelli's and Beretta's.
My father, as a thank you gift, has put a Benelli M2 Tactical on Lay away for me and told me it's ready or I can get something else in it's place. He says that because he knows I have been wanting a Benelli M4 for some time now. That's my dilemma. The M2 doesn't perform well with accessories attached but the M4, well, is an M4. Perfection.
I am also considering the FN slp but I really do not care for the option of having to change out the rings between heavy & light loads. What if I need to use heavier loads in a distressed situation and all there is next to me is the wrong shell next to me. I can not tell the perp to hang on and let me change out the gas rings so i can shoot what's available next to me.
So, I may nix the M2 for the M4. Is the M4 really worth the extra coin over the M2, slp and even the Mossberge 930 SPX tactical?

next, on to the AR15. I have been wanting to dive into AR's for a while. As of 3 months ago I really started to take an interest and have decided to buy one. In my research, I have decided to go with a Colt 6920 but I keep falling back to a Daniel Defense or LaRue rifle. I have read that the only thing a LaRue may have over the Colt is fit & finish. Maybe accuracy but let me be honest, I can never shoot to the accuracy of the gun so that point may be moot.
My local shop is about to start carrying Daniel Defense so now that has halted my decision on the Colt.

So if you would, help me decide on a STELLAR combo for shooting and defense.
 
The zombies won't know whether the buck shot was propelled from an 870 or a Mossberg, or whether the .223 round came down the launch tube of a Bushmaster or Colt. They'll just know that 2/3 of their head was liquified.

So its pretty subjective as to what is "best". I'm a traditional 870 pump and Bushmaster guy, but I've never had my hands on a Benelli or semi-auto, and I bet they are cool.

When I lived in the back of a funeral home for 3 years, I relied on a S&W 357 magnum K-frame for zombie defense. In all honesty, I could not get to sleep at night without it. But a shotgun is really best for zombies. Everyone knows that.
 
I use a slighlty upmoded 870 and love it but if I had the coin and was not hurting to get the M4- seems a really nice scattergun.

I use a LMT M4 Clone with DD Omega rail and a few small add ons. Love that carbine. I would like to upgrade the trigger and I have a 16 match grade barreled upper with Badger forend and flattop receiver that is looking for a scope. There are a number of excellent AR companies out there- the Colt and Larue are both good ones. RRA is solid. CMMG has a good rep.

For cool factor- the Seekins Precision lower makes for a nice build.- Milled receiver and some nice upgrades.

Bill
 
I picked up a Mossberg 930 SPX last year and it’s turned out to be a very fun gun to shoot. Light weight, eats anything I feed it and my poor old Benelli M1S90 has drifted to the back of the gun safe. My recommendation is you use the lay-way on that Daniel Defense AR if you don’t already own one. The rifle will be a very welcome addition to your defensive needs. I own over a dozen AR’s and none are Colts. I’ve got nothing against them, I would just pick the best deal from any of the quality manufactures and make sure I had plenty of ammo and mags to practice with. The good news with ARs is you can buy a quality base gun and as you get more familiar with it, you can slowly add (within reason) accessories to optimize handling and improve your training.

ROCK6
 
Give me an Ithica model 37 anyday. It has no trigger disconnect so you zip tie the trigger down and fire by working the pump.
 
comment from a game player... I shoot a 21" Benelli M1Super90 Field...it doesn't like crap hung on it as it needs a certain amount of recoil for the inertia bolt to work... with good ammo and the correct mag tube spring (ISMI 13" over installed length) works outstandingly well...If you plan on adding a lot of weight would go with a pump... for the rifle, naturally a flat top, would suggest an intermediate gas tube location if you go with a 16" carbine....you need a good trigger and good cheek weld, shrouded firing pin bolt carrier, and properly staked gas key... I replace factory A2 stocks for Viet Nam era A1 shorter stocks...spend your money on good glass if you want to play past 200m...I like a small full float tube without the rails (I use a rail only as a foregrip mount ...which I use as a monopod)... my shortgame carbine (16" Colt upper, ArmaLite lower, RRA national match trigger) has a Trijicon 1.5x16 and a mount for a SureFire Scout light... my long range gun (16" intermediate RRA upper , ArmaLite lower, RRA national match trigger) has a Trijicon 4x32 with a 55grain reticle...co witnessed short range iron sight (square notch pistol profile not peep sight) mounted for close in roll over use
 
I have an ultra 87, an old Ithaca 37 Featherlight and a Benelli Nova. Always been a fan of side-ejecting pump guns and it's taken alot of time to learn how to use the Ithaca efficiently, but they all bark when you tell them to. The lightest is the ithaca but the ergos on the Benelli make up for the weight difference. The ultra 87 is a user/abuser, a true field gun-never had any problems, just a simple fixed choke-feeds it all-not pretty by any means, but a true abuser. i grew up hunting with a fixed choke so patterning the ithaca and ultra 87 are pretty natural for me.
 
I handled a Benelli M4 saturday. I'm sure it's a fine gun, but it's a boat anchor even without any add-ons. I'll keep my M1S90.
 
I can't help you with the shotgun as I like my Winchesters and I don't think you can find them anymore. I can heartily recommend that if you like to shoot and plan to shoot the AR much, go for a gas piston. Its like heaven - getting to shoot an AR without the completely ridiculous amount of effort it used to take to clean it afterward! Basically for normal cleaning now all I worry about is the barrel.
 
I got a SPX about a year ago, had cycling problems from the start, but sent it back to Mossberg on their dime, had it back in about 2 1/2 weeks, and its not had one problem in 700 rounds, including cheap wal-mart bird shot up to 3" buck shot. It has nice light recoil, I can hold it straight out one handed and shoot it 3-4 times without any problems (shoulder strength gives out after that, but not because of recoil).
 
Well...

For a shotgun, I'd have to say go with the 870. I've owned all the guns you've mentioned, and shot them plenty. The 870 is just simple and it works. It's been proven. You could even go for the Mossberg 500, if you want, it's pretty much the same gun. I love semi shotguns aswell, but the Benelli's are just...Well, I'd say they're hunting or competition guns. On the semi's, there's just too many things that could go wrong when you've got a zombie about 5 feet from your face. I've gotten rid of my Benelli, but I still own an 870 and 500. My "combat" shotgun is a Saiga-12. If you want to kill, do it with quantity. I own the 10 round mag for it, and it's not even that bad. Kinda of big, but not -too- big. My suggestions are either the 870 or the Saiga 12.

Now for AR15's. Well, they're pretty much all the same. Sure, there's the whole quality thing and all that, but an AR15 is an AR15. You can get better accuracy out of cold hammer forged barrels and all that fancy whatnot, but unless you're some amazing shooter, a Bushmaster or something will shoot just the same. Sure, after about 10k rounds, the cheaper gun may start having parts fail. I'm just guessing at that. None of my AR15s are even close to that round count. I'd say just buy quality parts and throw together a Frankenstein, but if you want to buy a complete rifle then just go for the DD. Can't go wrong with that kind of quality, especially if you have the money for it. Colt and Larue also make just as good rifles, perhaps better in some aspects. Just choose which one works best for you, feels best for you, etc. I will also suggest BravoCompanyManufacturing and Noveske for some top of the line rifles. LWRC, LMT, the list goes on and on for great rifles. Just keep looking, buddy. The right one will find you.

If you have any questions about anything, send me an email. I'd be more than happy to help.
 
OpKey said:
My "combat" shotgun is a Saiga-12. If you want to kill, do it with quantity. I own the 10 round mag for it, and it's not even that bad. Kinda of big, but not -too- big..
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Oh, yeah forgot about my hand-held claymore...err Saiga 12:D

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ROCK6
 
Pumps are absolutely NOT the best for HD in my opinion.

Most modern autos are very very reliable with high brass (read, all defensive) ammunition, and a pump gun is too easy to short stroke under stress for those who are not well trained in their fighting use.

The Spaghetti guns (Beretta / Benelli / Franchi) are all impeccably reliable, and can often be had quite cheaply second hand if you look around - especially in 20 gauge. A lightly used, well cared for, 20 guage Beretta 400 OR Franchi 48 can be had for $400 - $500 if you look in the right place. Either would be deadly effective with slug or buckshot loads, and still fly under the radar as a conventional "sporting weapon". And Since they are designed to be upland guns, they are relatively short barreled and light weight for long days carrying afield.

If someone were opposed to a good auto, then my second choice would be a hammerless, coach gun, or i suppose a compact OU if you could find such a beast.
 
mr.trooper said:
Pumps are absolutely NOT the best for HD in my opinion.

Most modern autos are very very reliable with high brass (read, all defensive) ammunition, and a pump gun is too easy to short stroke under stress for those who are not well trained in their fighting use.

The Spaghetti guns (Beretta / Benelli / Franchi) are all impeccably reliable, and can often be had quite cheaply second hand if you look around - especially in 20 gauge. A lightly used, well cared for, 20 guage Beretta 400 OR Franchi 48 can be had for $400 - $500 if you look in the right place. Either would be deadly effective with slug or buckshot loads, and still fly under the radar as a conventional "sporting weapon". And Since they are designed to be upland guns, they are relatively short barreled and light weight for long days carrying afield.

If someone were opposed to a good auto, then my second choice would be a hammerless, coach gun, or i suppose a compact OU if you could find such a beast.
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i could no agree more. i am afraid in a stressed situation I may short stroke my 870, even though, I have used it to train with.
 
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