Show Some Spyderco Kapara Love

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First off, apologies if this is in the wrong place. I've never started a thread of this sort, and I've had a few frosty beverages. Mods, feel free to place this in the right place. .

Who has some love for the Spyderco Kapara??!!

For me, it was love at first sight. I've been a spyderco lover since the late 80's. I'm a knife maker, lover, collector, enthusiast. I currently own, on last count, roughly 80 spyderco folders, almost all of which see regular use. By now, frankly, I'm probably up in the mid 90s or even very low 100s. I've owned well over 200. Please don't take this as a braggart statement, I only mean to show that I know what I'm talking about. As for the number of knives, I'm single (that helps), I'm a metallurgist, and I'm 40ish years old. . I've been fascinated with knives since I was 5, and can't possibly guess how many I've held, or owned, or loved.

To get to the point, in my opinion, the Spyderco Kapara might well be one of the best (if not THE best) knife spyderco has ever made. And for that matter, possibly also the best EDC folder (barring only the bg42 small regular CRK, of which I own 2, and the NICA tanto versions of) ever made. Period. That's huge.

I have a medium hand size, perhaps to others it doesn't fit quite as well, but to me, this is the perfect handle. It fits, literally, perfect. Delica and others are great, but this one is PERFECT, in my opinion. I've never seen quite as neutral or comfy of a handle, from anyone, ever. And it's rounded too. Finally, a rounded handle, not just slabs. And while I love the handle shape, I'm sick to death of carbon fiber. Sure, it has it's uses, but in terms of knife handles, g10, micarta, and literally 10s of other things are just as good if not better. It's light and stiff, I know (again, being a Materials Science Engineering guy). . on plane wings, yes, it has huge advantages. As knife scales, it's frankly not needed, and in my opinion way over-used and overly expensive. Still, it works and looks great (here) and given the price I don't mean to complain. The steel, s30v, is stellar. I have no problems there. I might have slightly preferred zdp or 3v, and those 2 only, at slightly higher cost. I have absolutely no problems with s30v, it kicks ass.

The handle is also smooth (not coarse g10 like most, over which I have to apply my special tape), which saves pocket wear. It has a wire clip, one of my favorite clips ever (Though honestly I'd still like to see, and would prefer, an 'S' shaped clip, that doesn't stick out from the handle for so long, like on the CRKs or others). It has a blade far exceeding a PM2 in length, while still having a similar handle length, and in my opinion, a much better shape. It also has one of the best choils I've seen. If you're a folder person, you'll understand that pretty much every folder has a roughly 1 inch 'dead space.' This is is necessary so that it can fold into the handle, yet still have a structurally sound lock-up, leave room for a pivot, and so on. The Kapara has, I feel, the best use of that 'dead space' ever.

The Kapara also has one of the best-shaped, longest, most capable, and most useful blades in a folder of this size. It also has a tiny butt. Which makes pocket access far better than that of a PM2 (it has a giant, huge, lanyard hole. who uses these???! and super fat butt-end). It's not alone there. Ditch the lanyard hole, and the huge fat ass, trim all that. I have other things in my pocket i need to access, keys and phones and blah blah. I don't understand why people still make these huge-butted tip up knives!?. Why should any knife take up half my hand room??!. It's unwanted and unnecessary. The Kapara is very friendly on that note. Cheers and thank god.

To digress though, the Kapara is there when you need it, it's almost unnoticeable when you don't. It has great lock-up, provided by one of the greatest locks in history. It has a super comfy handle that won't tear your pocket up. The opening hole is very accessible without it being "pocket-catching," meaning it won't open, 70% of the way, sometimes, unexpectedly (grrrrr, i hate that. . cough cough emerson wave and cold steel 'opening plates,' and dual thumb studs on some).

And before you new, younger, new-to-knives folk get started (no disrespect). . No, I don't want a flipper. No, i don't 'flick open' my knifes. I want to know they're open. I can open a knife in a realistic, fail-safe way, 100% open every time, just as fast, or faster, than you flicker folk. And I don't have to guess if it's open or not, nor spend 30 seconds placing my thumb just right. A flipper tab would ruin this, and many other models. I quite loathe the "flipper," and "flicker" trends that have been going on lately and dislike even having to comment on this suggestion.

In the end, and maybe I've chatted a bit much, but I'd love to hear your thoughts, all of you, on the Kapara. I think it might be, literally, the best knife Spyderco has ever made. It might also be one of the best EDC folders ever. I don't take either of those statements lightly at all.
 
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Holy novel length post Batman!
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I need to read now. But the Kapara is a great blade, almost tempted to call it the better PM2.
 
First off, apologies if this is in the wrong place. I've never started a thread of this sort, and I've had a few frosty beverages. Mods, feel free to place this in the right place. .

Who has some love for the Spyderco Kapara??!!

For me, it was love at first sight. I've been a spyderco lover since the late 80's. I'm a knife maker, lover, collector, enthusiast. I currently own, on last count, roughly 80 spyderco folders, almost all of which see regular use. By now, frankly, I'm probably up in the mid 90s or even very low 100s. I've owned well over 200. Please don't take this as a braggart statement, I only mean to show that I know what I'm talking about. As for the number of knives, I'm single (that helps), I'm a metallurgist, and I'm 40ish years old. . I've been fascinated with knives since I was 5, and can't possibly guess how many I've held, or owned, or loved.

To get to the point, in my opinion, the Spyderco Kapara might well be one of the best (if not THE best) knife spyderco has ever made. And for that matter, possibly also the best EDC folder (barring the bg42 small regular CRK, of which I own 2, and the NICA tanto versions of) ever made. Period.

I have a medium hand size, perhaps to others it doesn't fit quite as well, but to me, this is the perfect handle. It fits, literally, perfect. Delica and others are great, but this one is PERFECT, in my opinion. I've never seen quite as neutral or comfy of a handle, from anyone, ever. And it's rounded too. Finally, a rounded handle, not just slabs. And while I love the handle shape, I'm sick to death of carbon fiber. Sure, it has it's uses, but in terms of knife handles, g10, micarta, and literally 10s of other things are just as good if not better. It's light and stiff, I know (again, being a Materials Science Engineering guy). . on plane wings, yes, it has huge advantages. As knife scales, it's frankly not needed, and in my opinion way over-used and overly expensive. Still, it works and looks great (here) and given the price I don't mean to complain. The steel, s30v, is stellar. I have no problems there. I might have slightly preferred zdp or 3v, and those 2 only, at slightly higher cost. I have absolutely no problems with s30v, it kicks ass.

The handle is also smooth, which saves pocket wear. It has a wire clip, one of my favorite clips ever (Though honestly I'd still like to see, and would prefer, an 'S' shaped clip, that doesn't stick out from the handle for so long, like on the CRKs or others). It has a blade far exceeding a PM2 in length, while still having a similar handle length, and in my opinion, a much better shape. It also has one of the best choils I've seen. If you're a folder person, you'll understand that pretty much every folder has a roughly 1 inch 'dead space.' This is is necessary so that it can fold into the handle, yet still have a structurally sound lock-up, and so on.

The Kapara has, I feel, the best use of that 'dead space' ever. It also has a tiny butt. Which makes pocket access far better than that of a PM2 (it has a giant, huge, lanyard hole. who uses these???!) ditch the lanyard hole, and the huge fat ass, trim all that. I have other things in my pocket i need to access, keys and phones and blah blah. I don't understand why people still make these huge-butted tip up knifes?. why should my knife take up half that hand room??!. It's unwanted and unnecessary. The Kapara is very friendly on that note. Cheers and thank god.

To digress though, the Kapara is there when you need it, it's almost unnoticeable when you don't. It has great lock-up, provided by one of the greatest locks in history. It has a super comfy handle that won't tear your pocket up. The opening hole is very accessible without it being "pocket-catching," meaning it won't open, 70% of the way, sometimes, unexpectedly (grrrrr, i hate that. . cough cough emerson wave and cold steel 'opening plates,' and dual thumb studs on some).

Before you new folk get started. No, I don't want a flipper. No, i don't 'flick open' my knifes. I want to know they're open. I can open a knife in a realistic, fail-safe way, 100% open every time, just as fast, or faster, than you flicker folk, but I don't have to guess if it's open or not and spend 30 seconds placing my thumb just right. A flipper tab would ruin this, and many other models. I quite loathe the "flipper, and flicker" trend that's going and dislike even having to comment on this suggestion.

In the end, and maybe I've chatted a bit much, but I'd love to hear your thoughts, all of you, on the Kapara. I think it might be, literally, the best knife Spyderco has ever made. It might also be one of the best EDC folders ever. I don't take either of those statements lightly at all.
You have posted this in the right place (could also have chosen the Spyderco forum) … although your post did read a little like a match.com ad:D

The Kapara is a beautiful folder and you understandably like it a lot. As for it being the best folder ever made, others will have their own favorites. You had a few beverages, so they'll most likely forgive you for that 'transgression.'
30V is a fine steel. Ive had/have various PM2 knives in 30V and the steel rocks. Its easy to sharpen, takes a keen edge and hold it for a adequate time. There will always be those yearning for the latest 'super' steel and those who turn up their noses, when debating 30V. I find, it works just fine. It has a place alongside my knives in CTS-XHP, M4, ZDP et al.

I have no problem with what you call 'dead space.' Some get their knickers in a twist over 'handle to blade ratio.' Good ergonomics is paramount (to me). The PM2 has that in spades, now that you mention that classic.
The Domino has very little 'dead space' at the aft part of the handle and also has a generous choil, which you seem to like. It how ever has the option of flipper opening - a feature you dont seem to care for. It find the Domino opens/locks very positively not least when opening the knife using the tab.

Good luck with your Kapara. Always nice, when people get a knife which work for them. Enjoy it while it last; a new 'grail' might pop up on the horizon any day now:D
 
The PM2 was a game-changer. I get that and mean no disrespect, I own the original s30v version, as well as the 110v and m4 versions. I liked it that much. I'm honestly tempted to sell off all but the m4 one however. The Kapara, to me, is that much better and I'd trade PM2s for Kaparas (considering they're remotely similarly priced) all day long. To each their own, but I don't understand why Kapara isn't blowing up the internet like PM2 did. It's friggin' fantastic!
 
You have posted this in the right place (could also have chosen the Spyderco forum) … although your post did read a little like a match.com ad:D

The Kapara is a beautiful folder and you understandably like it a lot. As for it being the best folder ever made, others will have their own favorites. You had a few beverages, so they'll most likely forgive you for that 'transgression.'
30V is a fine steel. Ive had/have various PM2 knives in 30V and the steel rocks. Its easy to sharpen, takes a keen edge and hold it for a adequate time. There will always be those yearning for the latest 'super' steel and those who turn up their noses, when debating 30V. I find, it works just fine. It has a place alongside my knives in CTS-XHP, M4, ZDP et al.

I have no problem with what you call 'dead space.' Some get their knickers in a twist over 'handle to blade ratio.' Good ergonomics is paramount (to me). The PM2 has that in spades, now that you mention that classic.
The Domino has very little 'dead space' at the aft part of the handle and also has a generous choil, which you seem to like. It how ever has the option of flipper opening - a feature you dont seem to care for. It find the Domino opens/locks very positively not least when opening the knife using the tab.

Good luck with your Kapara. Always nice, when people get a knife which work for them. Enjoy it while it last; a new 'grail' might pop up on the horizon any day now:D

And again, to each their own. I've owned a domino or two and didn't care for it. The flipper and somewhat strangely-placed spyderhole frankly killed it for me. I frankly think the Kapara has less 'dead space' than either the domino or PM2. PM2-wise, I've measured it and would be happy to post pics. It DOES indeed have a much smaller, yet useful choil (dead space) and a much longer blade, in my opinion also more useful blade shape, but that latter statement is indeed subjective. Kapara is closer to wharncliffe with a slight belly, PM2 is dead-on spydero leaf. Whether that's your thing or not, it's a fact that should be considered. . .

As for ergonomics, PM2 is great, no doubt (you can see I've bought more than a few), but for pocket-friendly, and frankly better ergonomics, I do invite you to try a Kapara. If you don't like it I'll happily accept a second.
 
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The PM2 was a game-changer. I get that and mean no disrespect, I own the original s30v version, as well as the 110v and m4 versions. I liked it that much. I'm honestly tempted to sell off all but the m4 one however. The Kapara, to me, is that much better and I'd trade PM2s for Kaparas (considering they're remotely similarly priced) all day long.
No problem, we all like different knives for different reasons.

I don't understand why Kapara isn't blowing up the internet like PM2 did. It's friggin' fantastic!
Sadly we have seen that with other examples of some fine Spyderco knives. They cant all be Slysz Bowies, I guess.
 
Slysz Bowies

Don't get me started on that original clip placement. . . . . ARRRGGGHHH!

But yes, there's a wide variety, and something for everyone. And those Taichung Spydercos are, frankly, some of the best the world has to offer these days, no matter your flavor.

Thanks for chiming in, I do appreciate your opinion. and Cheers
 
And again, to each their own. I've owned a domino or two and didn't care for it. The flipper and somewhat strangely-placed spyderhole frankly killed it for me. I frankly think the Kapara has less 'dead space' than either the domino or PM2. PM2-wise, I've measured it and would be happy to post pics. It DOES indeed have a much smaller choil (dead space) and a much longer blade, in my opinion also more useful blade shape, but that latter statement is indeed subjective. Kapara is closer to wharncliffe with a slight belly, PM2 is dead-on spydero leaf. Whether that's your thing or not, it's a fact that should be considered. . .
I find, that (for me) the Spydie hole on the Domino is placed fine for opening. As for when closed; yes, the hole might look to be 'strangely placed' visually, as its not in the middle of a finger groove as on for example the PM2. It doesnt bother me though.
I dont doubt your statement vis a vis minimal 'dead space' on the Kapara, even though I dont own one.
The Domino has less DS than the PM2. The PM has some ekstra real estate in the aft part of the handle, which you quite correctly pointed out in the OP was for obvious reasons.
Kapara is closer to wharncliffe with a slight belly, PM2 is dead-on spydero leaf. Whether that's your thing or not, it's a fact that should be considered. . .
Im a fan of wharncliffe blades and as mentioned, find the Kapara a good looking knife. Im also a big fan of the PM2 and Spydercos leaf shaped blades in general.
 
no love lost. you love what you've found, you're a knife guy and I love you all. the flipper, and internal stop pin on the domino (dear god, don't get me started) were a complete no-go. I didn't own it long enough to properly comment on the hole placement, so I'll take your word. That's just me though. to each their own. I do think you'd love a Kapara however :)
Cheers
 
Don't get me started on that original clip placement. . . . . ARRRGGGHHH!

But yes, there's a wide variety, and something for everyone. And those Taichung Spydercos are, frankly, some of the best the world has to offer these days, no matter your flavor.

Thanks for chiming in, I do appreciate your opinion. and Cheers
Just to clarify, I only mentioned the Slysz in regards to an example of a knife 'blowing up the internet,' as you mentioned.
I have no problem with the clip …. but then I quite like the clip on my Spyderco Southard. Talk about a bone of contention;)
 
I haven't tried, and don't want to try, a Southard, for the same internal pin placement issue. Being an Engineer, it's a place of weakness and corrosion and failure, and entirely unnecessary/unwanted. There's plenty of legitimate ways to make stop pins, there have been for decades. That's me though. . . ). The Slyz, specifically, for me (in original form) was absolutely impossible to draw from my pocket, because of the clip placement (It narrowed at the exact same spot the lock-bar cut-out was placed). I literally could not draw the knife. I'm certainly not alone in that complaint (go look), and they later changed the placement (I assume for that reason) but I understand that some people did not feel this was a problem. You win some, you lose some. It was indeed an outstanding knife beside that note.
 
I'm certainly not alone in that complaint (go look), and they later changed the placement (I assume for that reason) but I understand that some people did not feel this was a problem. You win some, you lose some. It was indeed an outstanding knife beside that note.
Again, I dont doubt your statement. Now that you point it out, I might have read some utterings in regards to the Slysz clip. I never paid much attention, as I dont own a Slysz (Id like to though).
 
Whats your hang up with the stop pin?
Internal stop pin is my problem. I'd be more than happy to discuss this via PM or email. I've spent a great many years doing fracture analysis and corrosion assessments. Apologies, it will get technical and I feel detracts from the main reason for my post, but I'd be happy to chat outside.

Edit: Sorry, that question deserved and answer. Briefly, the internal stop pin just hogs out too much material right around the pivot where it's needed most. It makes the knife weaker and creates new and unwanted stress points. The hollowed out channel is also the perfect place for pocket lint, sand, water, or whatever else to accumulate, possibly leading to corrosion (which can further weaken the steel) or incomplete opening due to obstructions. The only reason to ever have an internal stop pin is to make room for a flipper tab. As I've said, I don't like flipping open knives and don't like flipper tabs, so that sort of design is sort of a double-strike for me. An external (normal) stop pin avoids all these problems.

And again, I'm not at all trying to knock other peoples favorites or displace any of the other great knives out there, I just want to proclaim the awesomeness of the Kapara.
 
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Size reference

L->R: Bug, Tatanka (cracks me up to see them together every time), CRK bg42 small regular, Delica 4, PM2, Kapara. All lined up by index finger placement.
 

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Again, I dont doubt your statement. Now that you point it out, I might have read some utterings in regards to the Slysz clip. I never paid much attention, as I dont own a Slysz (Id like to though).
No problem.
In all fairness, you were the one to bring up the stop pin;)
 
It looks like a very well-thought-out knife, and I can appreciate the aspects of the design you noted. I especially like that they have a fairly generous cutout for the compression lock, the lack of which is what keeps the Yojimbo from being the masterpiece it could be based on my own extremely subjective criteria and preferences.

I also appreciate what I call an integrated choil, where the choil is mostly - if not completely - part of the handle, and doesn't look like an awkward unsharpened portion of the blade. The only design change I feel would be worthwhile would be the addition of a small sharpening notch.

I think one reason it hasn't blown up is the price point - a PM2 runs ~$120, which feels much more accessible than nearly $200.
 
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Just to clarify, I only mentioned the Slysz in regards to an example of a knife 'blowing up the internet,' as you mentioned.
I have no problem with the clip …. but then I quite like the clip on my Spyderco Southard. Talk about a bone of contention;)

A friend sent me a Spyderco Southard to play with because its a knife I've been interested in for a while. Its a weird one for me, theres a lot of things I like, and a lot I don't like. But that pocket clip is ugly! :D
 
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