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(For the purposes of this discussion, I am going to use the term linerlock and framelock interchangebly since they operate on the same basic principle and for the purposes of this discussion, the distinction is fairly unimportant)
I like liner/frame locks, often though i am dissatisfied with the liner lock on a knife i'm examining, either the liner isnt thick enough, it goes too far to the right (which I HATE), or the angle between the liner and blade, the relative geometry, is awkward, and any number of these variables can cause me to view a particular liner lock as inferior. So, when i come across one that i think inspires confidence, im always pleased and i thought that it might be fun for us all to show a picture or 2 of the liner lock that for you, inspires the most confidence, the one that epitomizes rock solid, strength. I for one, would be interested in seeing your favorites.
For me, i look no farther than the Sebenza, and heres why. (Yes, i know its a framelock, but same basic principle). First, the Ti liner/frame lock is THICK!!! While its true that thickness alone does not make a liner/frame lock strong, since you can have incredible thickness and because of incorrect geometry have a fairly weak engagement, a very thick liner lock is nonetheless nice to see, and in my opinion, it IS one part of what makes a strong lock, and I have yet to see one thicker than on the large Sebenza. Second, the Sebenza liner/frame lock doesnt go too far to the right, i cant tell you how much i dislike a liner that strays too far to the right, and you just know that with a little use and wear, it'll go further and further to the right, screwing up proper geometry. I like the liner to stay towards the left side and thats exactly where the Sebenza's is. On the left side, but with plenty of engagement between the lock and blade. Next, the angle and relative geometry of the liner/frame lock and the blade's base just seem right to me, and you know that no force on earth short of a nuclear blast is going to flex that liner/frame lock. And finally, let's not forget the awesome, authoratative "thunk" sound when the Sebenza's liner/frame engages the blade and locks open, if you've never felt/heard it, you're missing out on one of the great knife related sounds.
For all these reasons, the Sebenza satisfies the craving in me for a bulletproof, rock solid lock, to say it inspires confidence is an understatement.
I think one critical reason Sebenzas get so much hype and praise is this excellent, thick, rock solid lock, it inspires confidence and appeals to the many of us who appreciate over-engineering, and extra rugged functionality. I'm not saying the Sebenza can't be beat, but I think it's a tall order.
Let's see whatcha got!
So, show me YOUR favorite liner locks! (Id be interested in seeing those by Carson, Obenauf, JW Smith, the Cutter/Brend and any others you have pictures of.)
I like liner/frame locks, often though i am dissatisfied with the liner lock on a knife i'm examining, either the liner isnt thick enough, it goes too far to the right (which I HATE), or the angle between the liner and blade, the relative geometry, is awkward, and any number of these variables can cause me to view a particular liner lock as inferior. So, when i come across one that i think inspires confidence, im always pleased and i thought that it might be fun for us all to show a picture or 2 of the liner lock that for you, inspires the most confidence, the one that epitomizes rock solid, strength. I for one, would be interested in seeing your favorites.
For me, i look no farther than the Sebenza, and heres why. (Yes, i know its a framelock, but same basic principle). First, the Ti liner/frame lock is THICK!!! While its true that thickness alone does not make a liner/frame lock strong, since you can have incredible thickness and because of incorrect geometry have a fairly weak engagement, a very thick liner lock is nonetheless nice to see, and in my opinion, it IS one part of what makes a strong lock, and I have yet to see one thicker than on the large Sebenza. Second, the Sebenza liner/frame lock doesnt go too far to the right, i cant tell you how much i dislike a liner that strays too far to the right, and you just know that with a little use and wear, it'll go further and further to the right, screwing up proper geometry. I like the liner to stay towards the left side and thats exactly where the Sebenza's is. On the left side, but with plenty of engagement between the lock and blade. Next, the angle and relative geometry of the liner/frame lock and the blade's base just seem right to me, and you know that no force on earth short of a nuclear blast is going to flex that liner/frame lock. And finally, let's not forget the awesome, authoratative "thunk" sound when the Sebenza's liner/frame engages the blade and locks open, if you've never felt/heard it, you're missing out on one of the great knife related sounds.

I think one critical reason Sebenzas get so much hype and praise is this excellent, thick, rock solid lock, it inspires confidence and appeals to the many of us who appreciate over-engineering, and extra rugged functionality. I'm not saying the Sebenza can't be beat, but I think it's a tall order.

So, show me YOUR favorite liner locks! (Id be interested in seeing those by Carson, Obenauf, JW Smith, the Cutter/Brend and any others you have pictures of.)