Sigg PSK box, etc

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Okay, I've messed around with all kinds of boxes and bags for PSK's, but this one floats my boat. http://www.swissbottle.com/ViewProduct.asp?ModelNumber=7105.90 and they're on sale too. Sigg says they are not for cooking and that's proably a good general rule but I wouldn't have any problem with that in a survival situation. You would need to leave the lid off as it has a silicone seal in the lip. Just fold up a little foil to use for a lid to keep the heat in and the bugs out-- unless you want the extra protein :barf:

One thing I want to accomplish is to have one kit I can use for multi-day or day hiking-- if I have that box in my pack, I'm covered. It is big enough that I may be able to incorporate my first aid kit in the same box, which I wouldn't mind at all. If I had to carry it, a little paracord sling would do the trick. If you didn't want regular access (like no first aid inside), it could be wrapped in line too. It measures 6 3/4" x 4 1/2" x 2 1/4" (170 x 116 x 60 mm)-- this ain't a belt rig. The weight isn't bad: 5.6oz/160g. I would LOVE to see something like this in titanium (price aside). They make a bigger one too, at 9" x 5 1/2" x 3" -- I have smaller suitcases :)

Anyway, it is big enough to hold a bunch of gear and even get a decent sized folding knife inside. I'm going to experiment with a selection of gear over the next week and report back.

Another goodie I found is an extra large spycapsule at EDCdepot.com. This thing is 3" long and 1" diameter. It's perfect for building a keychain PSK. Add a whistle, LED microlight, SAK Classic or Leatherman Micra, key chain compass, and firesteel outside on a ring and put your other firestarting goodies inside with whatever else you can fit. Add a paracord lanyard and a mini-caribiner and you're all set. They give you a free small capsule with your order too. I stuffed one with about 4 Tinder Quick tabs. Surf their site well-- they have enough gizmos to make you clank when you walk. I see they picked up on the capsule style lighters. I got a cordlock compass and a 20mm compass too. The 20mm fits in the xl capsule too.
 
Hey Dale, I'm getting ready to place an order on EDC and am going to purchase some of the spy capsules. You said they give you a freebie? What is the size of it just in case I don't need to order as many as I was planning.
 
Hey Dale, I'm getting ready to place an order on EDC and am going to purchase some of the spy capsules. You said they give you a freebie? What is the size of it just in case I don't need to order as many as I was planning.

It's the small one. They mention the freebie on the home page.
 
Quote: "Sigg says they are not for cooking and that's proably a good general rule but I wouldn't have any problem with that in a survival situation. You would need to leave the lid off as it has a silicone seal in the lip."

According to information on their site, their aluminum bottles are lined with an epoxy-based resin to keep contents from picking up a funny taste. I am not sure, but perhaps the reason they indicate that the boxes are not for cooking is because they are lined with the same thing. This could cause a problem if you tried cooking in them.

I use the following item and have been very happy with it for much the same purpose:

http://www.bcbsurvivalusa.com/xcart/catalog/BCB-Mini-Mess-Box-p-16156.html
 
I have a couple fo the bottles and the box isn't lined, or is there any kind of clear coat-- just anodized aluminum. Companies need to be laibilty concious too. I could see someone trying to cook in one of the boxes with the lid snapped shut-- cheap pressure cooker anyone? The lid has a silicone seal and cooking with the lid just resting on the pot would probably destroy it-- or catch it on fire. I added some foil to the kit, which is handy for a windscreen and a pot top too.

I would not use it for my regular cook pot anyway, just for survival situations. In fact, I'll probably dump the contents in an Aloksak for multiple day trips as I'm already carrying a cook pot. I'll leave the box for my day hikes and save the weight.
 
If they say that it's not to be used as a cooking pot, you may want to heed that warning. Or, because it's to be used for survival conditions only, go ahead and test it by boiling water in it. Then drink it and see what happens.:eek: I mean, you don't want to go into a life or death situation with untested gear and if the gear is going to add to the problem, you'll want to know that now I would think.;)
 
If they say that it's not to be used as a cooking pot, you may want to heed that warning.

Wellllllllllllllllll, I've cooked in bean cans and I have an Esbit stove that is designed around a Foster's beer can and I've used all kinds of aluminum pots for camping. I've worked enough metal to be comfortable with something like this. There is no coating on the pot and it's just anodized aluminum, so I'm not too scared of boiling water in it. Like I said, I imagine they don't want some twit cooking in the thing with the lid closed and/or ruining the seals.

Check this goodie out: http://www.ultralightoutfitters.com/stove.html . Now, a Foster's beer can has a plastic coating inside and at first glance, you wouldn't think you could cook in it, but you can boil water in it if you don't let it run dry-- the water absorbs the heat and away you go. BTW, this is the lightest, cheapest, solid fuel cooking system around. You get pot/cup/bowl all in one for the cost of a beer can. if you want to build your own, the "Livestrong" style bracelets make a perfect lip guard. You do need to invest in a safety-style can opener.

I would be shy on cooking with "pot metal" stuff like pewter, where the chance of lead and other contaminents is high.
 
I found a Tamrac 600R camera case in a thrift store today for $1.99. It fits the Sigg box with a little room to spare, leaving room for a folded map, ect. It has a zippered pocket that says "first aid kit" loud and clear. There is a small zippered pocket in the lid too. There are two parallel belt loops on the back and the shoulder strap can be unbuckled. I like the fact that the lid has a buckle rather than velcro.

Small camera bags like this are easily found and make a good sheeple friendly way to carry survival gear.
 
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