Silver Steel?

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I'm not sure which forum to put this in, so I'll put it in the one with the highest traffic and let the moderators move it if they can think of a more appropriate forum.

Has anyone heard of silver steel, or it being used in knife or sword blades? Looking at the composition it seems similar to 52100.

Here's the percentiles:

C: 1.1-1.2%
Mn: 0.24-0.45%
Si: 0.45% (max)
S: 0.035 (max)
P: 0.035 (max)
Cr: 0.35-0.5
 
I've never heard of using silver in steel. Don't know what benefits it would have.

S stands for Sulphur, Silver is Ag.

I knew a chem teacher with the license plate "HIHO AG".
 
Look for rewiews forum. I've put the chemical composition there. Silver steel is an low alloy steel used by Finnish smiths to forge puukkos - no swords (according to my knowledge). Some are differentially hardened some not. Some smiths quench it in oil some in water. Most famous knives of silversteel are Tommi puukkos that are differentially quenched in oil. Look for kellam knives for those puukkos (www.kellamknives.com). There has been articles anout Kellam's Tommi puukkos in Tactical knives and Knife Illustrated.
 
i've got a tommy stile puko by kellam and it cuts like hell i collect knives so i think i have at least 50 of them and there is not one that comes evan close to the sharpeness of this one
 
it is verry simple to sharpen i sharpen my knives with a butcher steel it is a medium grit never had a problem with a europeen knife the knives i do have problem sharpening is ats34
 
hmm... you may call me somewhat slow, but could someone please explain the numberplate-joke?
:D
Seb
 
Originally posted by Seb
hmm... you may call me somewhat slow, but could someone please explain the numberplate-joke?
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If I'm not mistaken...tallwingedgoate mentioned that in the periodic table Ag=Silver, so "HIHO AG" would translate to "HIHO Silver" which would be a reference to the Lone Ranger...

See, you can learn something from TV...:D Unless I'm wrong...then someone needs to explain it to me too...
 
Tallwingedgoat, I know there's no silver content in the steel, it's just like "silver solder", which is obviously again devoid of silver, but just called that.

Tommi, thanks for the info. I'll be honest and say doing a search didn't occur to me..........must engage brain next time.
 
I searched this info for over a year my self. Luckily I can read Finnish as silver steel is direct translation from Finnish 'hopeateräs' which is nickname used by Finnish smiths.
Böhler steel K 510 (Böhler is Austrian steel mill that has specialised in tool steels) that is classified to be cold work steel DIN 115 CrV 3 and is also sold as "silversteel". Name "hopeateräs" is in brackets after DIN code.
 
I believe silver solder does contain silver. Low temperature silver solder has less than hard silver solder. Nickle silver, on the other hand, contains no silver.
 
I've had the same experience with Kellum puukko knives..that silver steel cuts like none I have used..and I have 50 or so knives...great steel..
 
ZENGHOST, yeah you got my lame chemistry/lone ranger joke. :)

Shortgoth, I thought you were looking for steel with silver in it. Looks like some forumites have experience with it. Guess the "silver" part is good olde Finnish marketing.
 
Hehehe, nah tallwingedgoat, much as I liked the "Anita Blake" series of books, I doubt it'd work. Would melt all the silver out as soon as you tried to heat treat the blade I think ;).

EDITED TO ADD: I'm wrong. The melting point of silver is actually 961 C apparently. Thought it was a lot lower than that.
 
"Silver steel" comes usually as cold drawn bars, I think the name comes from the bright surface.

TLM
 
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