Simple HF 1x30 mod for water cooled grinding.

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Before I picked up my 1x30, I read about the many potential benefits of water cooled grinding. I see them as:

-Much harder to burn the edge, ruin temper during sharpening/regrinds

-Grind longer without having to dunk blade in water in between passes or stopping to allow blade to cool

-Less chance of any thermal shock due to rapid heating/cooling cycles

-Belt throws fewer sparks

-Less dust, etc. in the air

-Less mess, easier clean up

-Belts cut more efficiently, last longer

It sounded promising enough that I decided to come up with something for wet grinding on my 1x30. Here is a very simple solution that works for me. It literally only cost me a few dollars as I already had most of the stuff on hand.

Materials:

Standard 1/4" airline/vinyl tubing
1/4" barbed micro shut-off, adjustable valve (paid $2.79 for a 5-pack)
Optional shut off valve.
Soda bottle with lid
Tape/sealent...

The idea is just a gravity fed drip line. I decided to set the line by drilling a hole through the spark shield. I know a lot of folks take this off and throw it away, but it seemed ideal for what I wanted to do.

Drill a 1/4" hole in the shield (I may drill another hole so that the water hits the belt closer to the vertical drop, but it works fine where it is):

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Install in-line barbed micro valve and feed into previously drilled hole, should fit snugly:

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Install the second in-line shut off valve (I had the one pictured below already, but a second micro valve would also work). I use it as an on/off so I can set the micro for fine control and leave it:

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Drill another hole into the bottle cap and feed the other end of the tubing through the hole, (total tubing length will vary depending on the individual set-up). Seal connection as desired. I grabbed some electrical tape as the first thing I saw and just left it because it works. The few drips of water that leak from the connection while ginding have never bothered me, (but I did take care to ensure I don't allow any water to drip directly on or near the motor). Also, not having a perfect seal helps relieve some of the negative pressure that builds up in the bottle as water flows through the drip line. This could also be resolved with a second hole near the bottom of the bottle, (on top once inverted,) but it hasn't been necessary for me.

Full rig:

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Finally, the bottle just has to be suspended, inverted, above the 1x30 so that once the valves are opened and set at the desired drip rate, gravity will do the rest. I grind in an unfinished shop room in my basement and just wedge the bottle up in the exposed floor joists.

This has worked out quite effectively for me and I realized the majority of the benefits I had read about with very little cost or effort. I can't imagine I'm the first person to do this, but couldn't find anything similar on the forums or youtube, so here it is.

Practice regrind done on the water cooled 1x30:

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Thanks for reading and I hope it's helpful to somebody! :) :thumbup:

-Nate
 
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I realized I would be remiss if I didn't also make a statement about risk/safety. Please employ any suggestions found here at your own risk. Obviously there is a risk when introducing water to an electrical device not explicitly designed for it. In my experience, a little common sense makes the risk minimal in this application, but it should always be considered. Please also use the standard safety equipment recommended for a belt sander/grinder: safety glasses, hearing protection, respirator, & gloves.
 
You need to also use belts that are designed for wet/dry grinding.
 
Yes, thanks, I run quality ceramic belts. I can't remeber if they were specifically rated for wet/dry, but I haven't noticed any deterioration on them other than normal wear from grinding. Generally, belts are not a place I'd want to cut costs.
 
Thanks for posting your mod! I like it s lot and see many advantages..i also use a 1x30 and will likely use this mod.
 
Very nice, thanks.

From that regrind pic, it looks like you are able to flat grind against the platen. Mine gets terrible chatter doing that, so I can only grind on the belt above the platen.
 
Thx guys, I hope it's worthwhile.

Resin,

The only time I've had what I'd call chatter is on larger blades, probably b/c it's harden to keep the blade truly parallel against the platen? I just did a machete for my buddy and went with convex in the slack area so it would be easier. No problems with flat on blades 5" and under.
 
Resinguy, you might want to try waxing the platen, or perhaps giving it a shot of silicone spray. If it's chattering the belt is probably grabbing for some reason. Wouldn't hurt to smooth the entry side of the top of the platen by grinding or filing a little radius on it either.
 
That's a neat mod; one I'm definitely considering now as I'd not seen it before for a 1x30... :thumbup::cool:

The platen mod idea is a worthwhile project as well; my 1x30 chatters too when pushing flat against the platen so I run it pretty gently to cut down on that. :o
 
I always thought the chatter was from the lap joint on the belt. Will lubing the platen stop it?
 
I though the chatter was:

- weak retention spring

- a function of the short distance between idler pulley and drive pulley

- flaring of the lap joint

I did put a radius on the edges of the platten.
 
I'll have to try this now. As if I have the time for all of the other projects that I've purchased materials for that sit AHEAD of this one. Haha. Ahh. What did I do before I had children again?
 
I've got 3 under 10 Tim, you've got no excuse! :D

The different ideas on chatter are interesting. At any rate I'm glad it hasn't been much of an issue for me. I checked my platen and it is nicely rounded on the top edge, but it just came that way. I did make some minor adjustments to the angle and orientation to make sure it was all squared up and true before firing it up the first time, but never thought much of it after that.
 
Chatter can come from several different places for sure. You'll have to try several things to see what the cause is for certain. Belt tension, excess friction at the platen, splice issues, even contact wheel hardness (if grinding with a contact wheel) can play a role.

A very thick belt splice can definitely be one cause. Diagonal splices are definitely best but even they can cause it. Easing the entry at the top of the platen can help a lot with this but it can even happen when the wider part of the belt caused by the splice hits the item being ground, causing it to bounce up then back down. Sometimes the back of the belt can be sanded a bit without weakening the splice if you don't go too far.
 
What did I do before I had children again?

Whatever you wanted?
I am right there with you! :D

Thanks for this,I will be picking some things up to work with mine.

Would it be advantageous to add a bunch of ice cubes to the water to get a cold drip?
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I had a slap issue, to correct it I took a piece of steel 1/4" thick and countersunk some screws to I would have a flat surface and polished the face and rounded the top lip. Drilled corresponding holes in my stock platen and mounted it so I would have a larger and more stable platen with Very little flex.

Much happier, but I want to grab a piece of fire glass for it.
 
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