Skinny Serrated Spine Camp Blood Test

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Well, after a fair wait and problems with the post this beauty finally arrived...

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There is a little bit of Kydex rub in the picture compared to when it was new...

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but the knife is a user and some rubbing just has to be accepted if your going to carry it in Kydex and this is a good choice for a military/outdoors knife.

The specs on the knife are that it has a 7.5 inch blade and weighs in at 18 oz's and is .27inch thick stock ( original Camp Bloods are .34 inch! ) and has a total overall length of 13 inches tip to end of the talon hole. The grips are made from Carbon Fibre and first impressions of the knife are that it is really well balanced with the balance point being just infront of the grips...exactly to the rear part of the finger choil. This gives the knife a nice slightly blade heavy feel...very purposeful in that sense as this knife ounce for ounce is one of the most impressive choppers I have used...with the weight and feel to the knife being for me excellent as a mid sized "carryable" kit knife. The way a knife balances and feels more or less lets me know at the outset just how much I am going to like it....and this knife does feel "good"!

The carbon fibre grips on this knife and the general grip shape go a long way to giving the knife that "special" feeling in the hand. To test the grips I made the most of trying them both "wet" and "dry"....

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With the grips wet from the snow we have had the knife still felt warm and controlable in the hand....this standard shape for a set of grips is actually far better for me than the wavy "peaks and troughs" shape you can find on other knives....not that they are uncomfortable....it is simply that they are not as comfortable as those here. A big plus therefore for the knife in terms of first impressions on "balance and feel"......

Taking the knife out for some testing I happened to have a number of trees on my land which had suffered some what from the heavy snow fall and storms and had limbs snapped off which needed clearing.

Starting on limbing some of the snapped trunks on some of the younger trees I was really impressed with how this blade could "bite" deep with just standard chopping swings...this knife could easily sink into quite hard woods virtually up to the 1, 9/16ths inch depth of the blade...

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It is a "little powerhouse" of a performer on chopping...especially for a 7.5 inch blade....when it came to sectioning the central trunks of the younger trees where they had snapped off....this knife could go through the trunk in 6/7 chops...three either side of the "V"....with a small stroke to finish where the wood snapped "....

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Because of the balance and weight you can go on using this knife all afternoon chopping logs and it is not tiring to use...

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This knife works well at general field work tasks too..... you can also choke up on the blade for fine work comfortably ....the saw teeth are great for cutting grooves or notches in sticks for camp cooking work or for traps...and the upsweep of the blade would be fine for skinning and cleaning game.

With the blade getting some proper cleaning in the house before sharpening...

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the knife ended up looking as good as it did at the start...

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Which is one of the blessings of a Double Cut finish...it avoids glare but unlike coated blades you can see if you have tanin or sap stains on the knife...which can be very toxic in certain climates...and when cleaning you know when the knife is properly done and for me this is a much safer and better finish.

The knife came with a great edge and after an afternoons worth of pretty hard work the edge was dulled a bit but came back easily after some stropping on a leather paddle with some green polishing compound....it took about 20 minutes to sort out....and it is back to being razor sharp. Convex edges do seem to be somewhat easier to keep and maintain if giving the knife some hard chopping work.

In that sense I don't see the "big deal" over steel types once you have used a good steel...if at the end of the day a knife can put in a good days work and do it well....and you can restore the edge easily by whatever method you prefer...there is'nt much more you can ask of it.

This knife is a pleasure to use and certainly will be seeing a lot more carry time from me....nice one Jeremy!

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thanks so much for your time and info, my friend! i used this knife a while before i shipped her.. i thought the same about the chopping power for the size of blade. thanks again.. For your needs this .260 is a way better fit for you.
 
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It's just a matter of time ... till more of Jeremy's creations 'escape' into the real world.

And the real world will never be the same.:thumbup:
 
Excellent review Peter.
Thank you for taking the time to write this up for us.

Excellent knife. I think an EDC is next for me,
then one of your Monster Choppin,Zombie Chasin,Uber Knivens!
 
Peter,

Great report Bro!!! The more I see that Jeremy's stuff hits the world scene, the more I keep hearing the same things. Toughness, strength, quality of fit, great comfort to use and simply excellent work.

Thanks again for another conformation, and I do like those Camp Bloods.
 
Beatiful hard working knife that is... can't wait to hold mine in hand :thumbup:
 
After working with the knife for a bit I thought that it might benefit from re-working the swedge slightly...here are a couple of close up picture of the original swedge...

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My thoughts were that the right angle grind cut at the end of the swedge could benefit slightly from a tapered effect into the blade...it would remove any snagging...and also I wanted to lower the point slightly so that it would be centered exactly half way in line with the grip...this gives much more powerful stabbing ability and I like the benefits of a spear point on a knife for tasks such as carving a bowl for a fire drill and for cutting notches into wood.

Using a belt sander and cooling the knife in water after each pass to prevent any temper problems I modified the swedge to this shape.

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The swedge is a lot sharper now...

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and I gave the tip a "penetrator" tip profile....pressing against my hand this tip is "very" sharp....

The swedge also works well for ferro rod use...although in fairness the edges Jeremy put on the saw teeth work just as well...this knife can give a great "shower" of sparks and it's bushcrafting suitability is just as good as it's chopping and tactical ability. It can now "stab" with the best of them....and I am enjoying using this knife more and more...it really is "one hell of a good all rounder"...:cool:

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Thanks Jeremy....I am truly loving this knife....it is a very classy performer..:thumbup: The next thing is a few more tests ......perhaps with some comparison reviews with other knives....this knife can hold it's own and better many....it is just "so good" for it's size and weight...:cool:
 
Also. If you take off that first layer of carbon weave one the handles. It goes into a straight stacked pattern, I left the weave because it looks cool, but that underneath looks like my shbm ja and bt4 le, very cool and lots more grip! It is a very good handle material.
 
...The swedge also works well for ferro rod use...although in fairness the edges Jeremy put on the saw teeth work just as well...this knife can give a great "shower" of sparks and it's bushcrafting suitability is just as good as it's chopping and tactical ability. It can now "stab" with the best of them....and I am enjoying using this knife more and more...it really is "one hell of a good all rounder"...:cool:

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Somehow I feel that the word BUSHCRAFT might (just might) not actually apply to this knife here...:D:D

Don't take me wrong, I love the lines of that knife and I wish I could own one like that but... with that thickness, blade profile, etc... is not suited for buscraft by any means. That sharpened saw back doesn't allow you to push on it to make fine cuts/notches.

Mikel
 
Yes, I do like the grips...very "warm" and tactile...an ideal shape for my hand...compared to the "wave" shape on an SFNO LE grip it is much more comfortable....like I said this knife will suprise a few I expect on how well it can compare performance wise with other knives. Here are some of the knives I have which I would consider "users" but the SFNO needs to be "bead blasted" to make it useable for military use....

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In this picture we have from top to bottom, my D/C FSH which at 8 inches on the blade and 22 ounces weight is quite heavier but for little extra on the cutting edge compared to your knife...this is because of the weight Busse's have in the handle....

Then there is my Frank Voight Amazon...a knife I have had for 20 years and my mainstay belt knife over this period...it has had 4 D/C finishes on it...is made from ATS 34 with a Ryanite handle material which is what they used for the M16 pistol grips back in the mid 80's...is .25 thick ....and weighs in at 16 ounces as opposed to 18 ounces on your knife but it does not have a full tang and pommel....but like your knife is well balanced and has great chopping ability for it's size....this is the knife I wanted to replace about 7 months ago when I started looking at other knives because after Frank Voight died there are not many of these Outfitter knives out there and the value on these is going a bit high for me to keep using it as my belt kit knife....this is what I would use as a bench mark to judge any replacement.

Then there is the SNFO LE which is a 7 inch blade but deeper than your knife which when combined with the lager handle area gives this knife the same weight as your knife at 18 ounces. This knife from the Busse range is probably the closest comparable to your Camp Blood but it needs to be D/C for me to use it and also I am not a big fan of the wavy grips...they lead to "hot spots" usually....although those on my knife are very smooth and I think they will avoid this problem. I have'nt used this knife yet in the field but it would be a good comparable knife to test with the Camp Blood. So would the Voight knife. The FSH is really a bit more of a heavy weight knife....the next rung up the ladder really.

Then there is the Jackhammer and my modified Ratmandu. Neither of these has chopping ability really and are knives I like as a "smaller" second knife...particularly the RMD....the Jackhammer sort of is neither one nor the other....a bit big for a second knife but not big enough to have chopping ability as a "first" knife choice.

Another knife which is an interesting comparable is the Basic 9 shown here with my FSH's

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This knife for a 9 inch blade still comes in at 16 ounces perhaps due to the hidden tang and narrow depth of blade but it is not much longer than a FSH because of the above mentioned "large" handles on the Fusion blades...but this knife is a comparable weight wise although it's length restricts it a little for a rear draw carry which I prefer...but it might well fit OK in this role as my FSH manages to do so...albeit with the handle a bit high for an easy draw....

Here is a pic of what I mean as to how I like to carry my "Kit" knife....

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If a knife can be carried like this it is a potential contender...some of the larger bladed knives have to be carried cross draw on the left hand side in order to be able to draw them and this position can be in the way when crawling.
 
Somehow I feel that the word BUSHCRAFT might (just might) not actually apply to this knife here...:D:D

Don't take me wrong, I love the lines of that knife and I wish I could own one like that but... with that thickness, blade profile, etc... is not suited for buscraft by any means. That sharpened saw back doesn't allow you to push on it to make fine cuts/notches.

Mikel

You can actually choke up and push with your thumb very well on this knife as the flat section of the spine infront of the grip before you get to the saw teeth can be used for controlled leverage when using the edge beneath the thumb....however I am happy to throw into the mix some typical bushcraft techniques in tests and compare the knife to something traditionally regarded as a bushcraft knife....

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Having used both of these types of knife a fair bit....I think Jeremy's knife will cope very well with Bushcraft tasks....but we will see.;)
 
Excellent review and nice mods, it is good to see knives actually used and not just "babied"

I heard a Camp Blood is planning to make an escape south- to Atlanta, real soon; perhaps paving the way for others of its kind to take over Blade '09!
 
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