Sleepy knives awaken!

scdub

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Hello Knife People,

Do you have a sleepy knife?

I’ll bet you do, or at least you HAD one but you woke it up…

How do you wake up a sleepy knife? Geometry of course.

Here’s a selection of my knives that were a little sleepy but have been woken up with some thinner geometry:
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I re-profiled the edges of most of these myself, however the CS Talwar - second from the top, was sharpened by Sergey V. Pikiner, and the Scrapyard AD6 - fourth from the top, was thinned and given a convex edge by David Mary David Mary .

Many knives sold today seem to come with fairly obtuse edges, often more than 25 degrees per side (dps). Edges at these angles are difficult to resharpen freehand (which is absolutely the best method for 99% of sharpening tasks) and they don’t cut very well even when sharp.

I have found that if I reprofile an edge freehand, trying to hold about a 16 dps angle, I end up with a nice shallow convex edge with an apex of probably 18-20 dps (due to freehand “wobble error”). This seems to be the sweet spot for most knives - from kitchen knives to choppers - although I go even more acute for certain knives.

Recently I came across a video from OUTDOORS55 on YouTube, (highly recommend channel for sharpening information), who suggested the Shapton Korumaku orange medium ceramic wet stone (~1000 grit), and I wanted to pass along this recommendation.

It’s a wonderful, do-it-all stone that has an unusual combination of very fast material removal, high hardness/durability, and the ability to create a shaving edge. If I could only have one synthetic stone, it would be this one.

I recently used it along with my 16 degree Lego angle guide, a Spyderco ultra-fine bench stone, a homemade sharpening rock and a homemade diamond impregnated strop to create a scary edge on my Busse DDSH. 😻
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Have you ever woken up a blade?
Let’s see it.
 
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I reground almost every production knife I ever owned. May I humbly suggest a slight addition to the thread title? I think "Sleepy knives awaken!" has a nice ring to it, and drops a clear hint.
 
I like the homemade sharpening rock.

Parker

The venerable Scdub sent me one of those a couple years ago, which I cherish to this day. It is to the left of a Crucarta PM2 and S30V Military I awakened, and a Crucarta Military 2 that will awaken soon. I haven’t yet decided if it will join its PM2 brother at around .004” behind the edge or its namesake at around .008” bte serrated (or probably thinner given the steel).

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I think "Sleepy knives awaken!" has a nice ring to it
Ha - that’s catchy - will do!

I’m stoked that you still use that chert I sent you. It fits the hand well. It’ll go almost indefinitely without dressing as an edge alignment/burnishing stone, but a quick roughing-up on a fine grit diamond plate will get it cutting steel again. ✌️
 
Nice knives. I like all the Shapton stones, but I mostly use their glass stones as they are so easy to maintain and wear very slowly. The Kuromaku cut faster, but wear faster. For finishing, I prefer Naniwa and I think the Chocera 3000 is the best stone for that. I don't worry about angles, I just slowly remove the shoulder and convex the edge. Doing that makes it very easy to maintain on a strop and works with most any grind. Glad you are enjoying those blades again... keep up the good work!
 
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This SYKCo WD5 is a very well woken knife! I will never admit to Jerry Busse what I did to this piece of his craftsmanship to thin the *crap* out of the shoulder behind the edge. Let's just say I could have built half a battleship with the steel I removed. 😉 In its current state it is a maniac kitchen slicer in spite of still retaining it's full factory spine thickness. When I'm not roadtripping & in my home kitchen it's placed at the end of the magnet bar so it's easy to grab & is my default go-to blade.

It's interesting that OP mentioned YouTuber Outdoors55. I've spent lots of hours watching his vids and utilize his methodologies and the Sharpal & S SATC diamond plates he's recommended in the past as precursors to diamond sharpening & ceramic honing rods (all with handles like butcher steels). I personally recommend giving his sharpening vids a perusal to see if there's any takeaway lessons there you'd like to try.
 
I like that guy. Always interesting videos, presented in an entertaining way.


Now I want a Centofante....
No argument there - the blade stock is really thin on these, and they are just like the vid demonstrates. My Centofante Wharnie is an absolute laser. Also weighs nothing and ergos are superb.

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Good thread. :thumbsup:

I've been in the habit for years now, of 'awakening' most every newly-acquired knife I choose to carry. I hadn't originally thought of it in that way ('awakening a sleepy knife'), but I like that description. But I have often thought of mediocre, thickish edge grinds as something that makes ME yawn 🥱, however. Always perks me up, once I get them cutting the way I want them too. Almost universally, that means thinning out the edge grind at least, and sometimes the grind above it as well. Some of my favorite examples are below.
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