Slingshot anyone?

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While a knife is one of the most usefull tools to have in your possesion in a survival situation, an edged weapon has obvious limitations (such as hunting) I don't think that there are too many animals that will let a human get within a good stabbing distance. I keep a survival pack stocked that will get me through most survival situations, but don't want the added weight of carrying a rifle or compound bow, Handguns are not an option in my country (Australia)
Does anyone use a slingshot / shanghi for hunting, I would assume that they would only be effective on birds and smaller animals, (Shanghis are also illegal to use in Australia, but in a survival situation i'll take the risk!)
 
What's a shanghi?

An inexpensive wrist rocket type slingshot would probably be a reasonable and discreet small game getter if you could manage to hit your targets with it. I have a Trumark slingshot and am lucky to consistently hit a soup can at 10 yds. Takes much practice to be sure. Lots of cheap fun, though.

The slingshot always reminds me of reading the book, Deathwatch, as a kid. Always loved it. Just gave it to my 9 year old a few months ago, and he really liked it, too.
 
I,m pretty good with a slingshot . I had a compound slingshot from B:S:A: It had barbed smallgame arrowheads with it . I have heard of deer being taken with a slingshot . Yu wouldn,t need to have more than surgical tubing and maybe the pouch . You could proabably make one though . Practice practice .
 
I'm hopeless with a slingshot.......

I prefer throwing a spear with a "Woomera" or "atlatl"....

I can usually carve one out in 15 minutes......30 if you include making the spear.

I find this combo has more "stopping power" than a slingshot
 
Slingshots are legal in N.T. same with crossbows.

My dad taught me the slingshot when I was about 7 and I now make and shoot well. Carrying the rubber is the hardest part for a kit to keep size down I recon. Easier to carry cord for making a bow/arrow and traps. Even make a traditional slingshot. Dont forget about just chucking a stick at em ;)
 
G'day Caustichumor....I live just across the ditch from you. We aren't allowed handguns either which is a pity.

A while back when you didn't have to pay money to participate in the Primitive Archer forum (and I think they are reverting to free use again soon), I recall that there was quite a bit of controversy about a bloke who claimed he'd killed a deer with a slingshot. I think he used something like a .50 caliber lead ball for a projectile, and I think he was in a tree just above the animal when he clobbered it on the swede and dropped it. People were getting up the poor guy... accusing him of being inhumane with his choice of weapon. Personally I was happy for the dude... and grateful he told us the story. I was inclined to believe the story because I'd followed this man's antics for quite a while... and I was aware that he apparently had quite an accomplished buddy who made these slingshots for sale. Naturally I wouldn't recommend that anybody should tackle a big animal with a slingshot, but it is interesting to consider what you can do with one.

For primitive meat gathering my number one choice is a simple cord snare. I think that snares may be illegal in at least parts of Australia, but I think they are also seen as an acceptable thing in a wilderness emergency (I think I've seen info on the 'net on wilderness survival produced by the Aussie authorities that mentioned snaring). I have caught dozens of animals in snares...mainly Aussie Brushtailed 'possums. As I write this I have about 20 snares set that I will be checking first thing in the morning... most of them are set for possums, but I saw some pig sign so I set some bigger ones as well.

Although you live in the land of the woomera (atlatl) and spear, and although these things might be relatively easy to make... I would rather put the effort into making a simple bow and arrows. I wish I had the ability to use a woomera because they really appeal to me...but I know I would have a much greater chance of hitting something with an arrow. Maybe we should make some woomeras and darts and practice for the day we need them. I understand that some guys (specially the original Australians) are very competent with these weapons...so if they can do it maybe we can too.

But snares are the meat-getters. They hunt for you while you are doing other things. You have to set enough of them to make sure you get something because many times the snares are empty when you get to them in the morning. You might catch one animal in five snares. If you only have one snare you have to make sure you set it in the most likely place. In case some young folks or beginners read this, I want to stress that snares MUST be checked often. It is unforgivable to set a snare and leave an animal caught in it for a longer time than necessary. Sure we eat meat and something has to die to provide that meat, but we have an obligation to be as kind to animals as possible.

Here are some pics of animals that wandered into my snares:

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Does anybody else snare animals for meat? I would be interested to read about what you do.

Best wishes... Stephen Coote, Nelson, New Zealand.
 
I love slingshots and carry one with me a good bit, a folding wrist brace style is my favorite. I have killed rabbits, squirrels and various birds with my slingshot and have carryed one in africa, SWA, and all over the US.

There is a lot to think about before using one in a survival situation, they require a good bit of practice to have any sort of accuracy, they require a bit of upkeep, the rubber tubes most commonly used for the bands dry rot and have to be periodicly replaced.

I find it extremely doubtful about the deer story, I am not saying it can't be done, but believe it to be more luck than skill. I would equate killing a deer with a sling shot to be equivalant to killing one with a thrown rock.
 
Coote,

I have no idea what that first animal you posted is, but he's way too cute to eat. Please tell me they shoot acid out of their tear ducts or have poison darts that they shoot out of their tails, something... anything... What did you name it?

As for slingshots...
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I could just leave this photo without commentary and you'd think I was a great shot. There are alot of misses and alot of body shots behind this photo. If you hit a lizard in the body they will get away down in the rocks. I do aim for the head preferring to miss or get the lizard. Yes I ate these, tastes like chicken that was starved to death. Mac
 
Mac,
The first animal is a brush tailed possum and they are a MAJOR pest both here in Australia and in Zew Zealand. Yes they are protected and no we can't eat them (unless you happen to be indigenous) although I recon they'd be really tasty given the amount of fruit they eat and destroy. As for plague proportions ... they're up there with kangaroos. As for eating them if I was hungry ... I wouldn't have to think about it for long. I've trapped heaps of them in box traps and relocated them 10 miles away only to have them return. Culling them may not be far off.
I like the lizards, we've got really tasty ones too ;)
 
OK there you go... They're an overpopulated plague animal. That works for me, dip him in batter and fire up the fryer. Mac
 
Longpig, at least they won't be taking us with slingshots. I'm too old to fry, I would suggest a crock pot. Mac
 
I believe the guy who hunts deer with a slingshot is survival expert Madison Parker. He does hunt from a tree and uses a .50 lead ball. The ball crushes the skull. No less humane than some other ways to take deer. I have one of Madison's heavy sling shots and can't pull it well enough to utilize its full power. I like to think I'm fairly strong and have no trouble with a 70# bow. Madison is a husky guy and uses his sling shot day after day. year after year. He is also accurate enough to harvest the squirrels his dogs chase to the tops of the trees in the Florida panhandle where he lives. By the way, the knife he likes to use for his survival activities is a 9" blade bush knife of O1 steel.
 
A 50 caliber ball is not big enough and is too light to crush a deers skull, if you propel it fast enough to crush then it will penetrate. I will have to see someone kill a deer with a sling shot to believe it. Chris
 
woodsmoke said:
I believe the guy who hunts deer with a slingshot is survival expert Madison Parker.


Anyone have a link for this guy, I've been looking for info on him for a few years, ever since I saw an article on him in "Tactical Knives".

Its like he fell of the face of the online planet, and he seems interesting.
 
shecky said:
The slingshot always reminds me of reading the book, Deathwatch, as a kid. Always loved it. Just gave it to my 9 year old a few months ago, and he really liked it, too.

Loved that book. Read it in fifth grade, and really enjoyed it. I must have been about nine, just like your daughter.

Back then I imagined that his "old Hornet rifle" looked something like a blunderbuss.:o To me that was how an old rifle should look...
 
Yep... like Dartanyon says that first animal is an Australian Brushtailed Opossum. In New Zealand they are not protected. They were declared a noxious animal years ago after the few that were released to establish a fur industry bred like wildfire.

A while back it was estimated that NZ has about 70 million possums, and that collectively they eat maybe 20 thousand tonnes of vegetation every night.

I eat them and enjoy them very much. I catch quite a few, but generally will only bring home the fat ones to eat... and generally these are female.

I trap them because it is something to do that gets me outdoors, but I also sell the plucked fur for NZ$70 per kilogram. It takes maybe 16 possums to yield a kilo of fur. Not that I'm into it, but some of the whole pelts can fetch a reasonable price - maybe NZ$14... but this might be only one in 200 furs. A freshly killed warm possum is very easy to pluck.

Here are a couple of possum pictures. The first one shows a wee fella I came across on an expedition on a neighboring farm. I didn't kill it. It is in the classic possum pose which says "Back off buddy or I will make you bleed"... but seeing it was only about seven inches high I didn't take it very seriously. If it had been an adult weighing maybe 10 pounds I would have treated it more carefully.

The other photo shows a buddy of mine who does a lot of possum trapping. He generally poisons them with cyanide....and he gets them by the trailer load. He is holding a bunch of fur that was machine plucked.
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Coote,

Your possums are a whole lot better looking than ours. They look like good listeners. At $43 US per kg, I think I'd get over the cute factor quick enough.

I did some trapping back when I was a kid. We got alot of possums. Actually they were a pain as they didn't sell for all that much and they spoiled alot of sets for other stuff like raccoons. We didn't snare then as snares are illegal in Pennsylvania. Mac
 
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