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Small Sebenza-Big Enough For Defense
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stjames
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Razor, um, just how dangerous a Church do you attend, anyway?
I am not a defense or tactical oriented knife user, but I know that any sharp object is capable of inflicting damage to another Human Being. If the Small Sebenza is anything, it is a sharp object.
But I believe that most people who are looking for a knife for this purpose do see size as an important factor. Take a look at the LDC-109, a modified version of the knife that was designed and marketed as a tactical knife. Despite the limited number, quality and collectability of the piece, there are still some offered for sale from the original procurer after all this time. Meanwhile, the Tanto Sebenza, a modified tactical version of the Large Sebenza, has sold briskly since its release. I am not sure if a Small Tanto Sebenza would fare as well, but who knows.
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James Segura
San Francisco, CA
I am not a defense or tactical oriented knife user, but I know that any sharp object is capable of inflicting damage to another Human Being. If the Small Sebenza is anything, it is a sharp object.
But I believe that most people who are looking for a knife for this purpose do see size as an important factor. Take a look at the LDC-109, a modified version of the knife that was designed and marketed as a tactical knife. Despite the limited number, quality and collectability of the piece, there are still some offered for sale from the original procurer after all this time. Meanwhile, the Tanto Sebenza, a modified tactical version of the Large Sebenza, has sold briskly since its release. I am not sure if a Small Tanto Sebenza would fare as well, but who knows.
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James Segura
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Trying to think like an opportunistic predator . . . If I grabbed somebody who produced a 3" pocket knife, I think I would want to let go and leave the area. If I spotted a pocket clip, then if I didn't bother that person I wouldn't need to find out how big the knife was, or what that person could do with it.
If a psychotic and/or terrorist attacks people in a house of worship, such rational considerations might not apply. In the gravest extreme, the tendons and arteries in a bad guy's extremities are all within reach of a small pocket knife if you charge the ambush.
People in my congregation are used to me, and they don't cringe any more when they ask me to cut something for them, no matter what pocket knife I pull out to do it.
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- JKM
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If a psychotic and/or terrorist attacks people in a house of worship, such rational considerations might not apply. In the gravest extreme, the tendons and arteries in a bad guy's extremities are all within reach of a small pocket knife if you charge the ambush.
People in my congregation are used to me, and they don't cringe any more when they ask me to cut something for them, no matter what pocket knife I pull out to do it.
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- JKM
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My small benza wouldn't be my first choice to accompany me on a walk through a dangerous neighborhood, but I think it would perform adequately if called on in that particular rolel.
Razor -- I see you are from Bristol -- I am from just over the hill in Kingsport, TN. Good to see some folks on BFC from "the Mountain Empire"
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Razor -- I see you are from Bristol -- I am from just over the hill in Kingsport, TN. Good to see some folks on BFC from "the Mountain Empire"
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Big enough? Sure! Though it wouldn't be my first choice if I was going into harms way.
I often carry an Emerson Commander, but will carry a small Sebenza on occasion. (These are backups to one or two guns BTW)as long as you know the limitations of what your carrying and have practiced with same. Remember, your knife would be used more for slashing and cutting hands, arms, throat, face etc... Not necessarily deep puncture wounds. In fact, I'm more concerned about the smaller grips than the smaller blade because of quickness, leverage etc..
Using a firearms analogy. "Friends don't let friends carry mouse guns", but a mouse gun in the pocket beats the .45 sitting at home.
I think I remember reading somewhere that martial artist and knife expert, Michael Janich, was very content to carry two Spyderco Delica's. One for each hand. that should tell you something about the importance of blade size.
IMHO
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I often carry an Emerson Commander, but will carry a small Sebenza on occasion. (These are backups to one or two guns BTW)as long as you know the limitations of what your carrying and have practiced with same. Remember, your knife would be used more for slashing and cutting hands, arms, throat, face etc... Not necessarily deep puncture wounds. In fact, I'm more concerned about the smaller grips than the smaller blade because of quickness, leverage etc..
Using a firearms analogy. "Friends don't let friends carry mouse guns", but a mouse gun in the pocket beats the .45 sitting at home.
I think I remember reading somewhere that martial artist and knife expert, Michael Janich, was very content to carry two Spyderco Delica's. One for each hand. that should tell you something about the importance of blade size.
IMHO
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I think I first saw Massad Ayoob demonstrate fighting with a small Victorinox blade (the smallest) surely not the best option but allot better than nothing - when hidden behind your index finger it can do magic to a guys exposed face..
A sabenza or Emerson CQC6/7 can do wonders in the hands of a determined fighter.
Mouse guns around are better... - if you are serious than carry a Para Ordnance p14 at all times - I do...
A sabenza or Emerson CQC6/7 can do wonders in the hands of a determined fighter.
Mouse guns around are better... - if you are serious than carry a Para Ordnance p14 at all times - I do...
Gary W. Graley
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I was wondering like St James, what Church do you attend? I know that some can get pretty rowdy...
The strength is there, as well as a fine edge, should be all you need to ward off a potential threat, see my note below on my signature as to what a dangerous weapon is;
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The strength is there, as well as a fine edge, should be all you need to ward off a potential threat, see my note below on my signature as to what a dangerous weapon is;
G2
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"There are no dangerous weapons;
there are only dangerous men."
.......... Robert A. Heinlein, 1959
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Well, from a technical point of view, I remember reading a discussion about optimum bladelength for 'tactical' encounters. A 3,5 inch blade was universally seen as a minimum bladelength to reach vital organs (or the one in church of course
). For self defense, you don't have/want to reach vital organs, just arteries and tendons and such. The La Griffe by Fred Perrin, is a wonderful self defense knife, and much smaller than your small Sebenza.
I asked James Keating's opinion of the (large) Sebenza as a defensive folder, and I especially like this quote:
"We like it due to it's superior locking mechanism and simple durability.Fighting with a knife is no different than any other chore you may ask a knife to perform,the product should do whatever you ask of it in most cases. The "benza" does it all well. Highly specialized tools/knives should be left to their areas of specialization.But such a good performer like the Sebenza can do just about anything if need be."
I asked James Keating's opinion of the (large) Sebenza as a defensive folder, and I especially like this quote:
"We like it due to it's superior locking mechanism and simple durability.Fighting with a knife is no different than any other chore you may ask a knife to perform,the product should do whatever you ask of it in most cases. The "benza" does it all well. Highly specialized tools/knives should be left to their areas of specialization.But such a good performer like the Sebenza can do just about anything if need be."