It was bound to happen sooner or later. Last night, wrestling with my kids, the clip on my Native IV (back right pocket) caught on the door edge and popped off. I found all three screws but two of the threads are no good anymore (well, actually one of them wasn't ever any good, came that way from the factory). So, I've converted to tip down carry. Not my favorite but at least I had the option. I wonder if this would have happened with a wire clip.