Snare or not too !

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I pratice using a snare actually setting 2 at least and to no avail I ain't caught squat. I rigged it up with an 8" diameter and on a path in the woods and also in a field but nothing,wow I think I'll ditch the snare and add more to my fishing tackle in my PSK, I know how to fish . Has anybody tried this method and actually caught something.just thought I would ask for a little advice.:D
 
Yes I have, muskrats and rabbits but there is a guy on here named Coote that is a snare master, drop him a email and look up some of his old posts, good info.

Also, depending on the size of your kit, look into some conibear traps, heavy and big but bullet proof. Chris

Edit: 8" seems awfully big, try some twitch ups with bait that should increase your chances.
 
What were you actually trying to snare. If it was rabbit did you set the snare at the right hight and in an area you know that is a rabbit run ?
You also have to carefull of your scent being on or around the snare and you can also place some sticks in the ground to guide the rabbits toward where you have it set.
I wouldn't just give up as it takes a lot of trial and error and just remember if you are in a survival situation you are not going to starve if you don't catch any food within the first couple of weeks !!!!
 
i did place sticks to help guide the rabbit in a general direction rabbit run, not sure looked to be a small mammal pathway ,maybe 8" was to large or my scent who knows .I have not lost hope but running thin on faith. trial by error!
 
Sounds like most everything has been covered; Proper placement of the snare for the target animal(height, in a trafficked run/trail, etc.), Funneling the path, Scent(I like to build my snares after a smoke or near a fire, helps eliminate that human smell, and most all animals know what smoke smells like, but are only really afraid if they spot the fire).

Generally a 5-1 ratio is pretty favorable, but I think as someone mentioned, the more you set the better the odds. Beyond that, it's pretty much patience and timing. Good luck with it, if nothing else, you get to practice setting up different triggers and methods...Can never have too many options in a "survival situation". :thumbup:


Gautier
 
aim for bigger game ?

its not unknown for people to snare gaots here , tho its not bragged about , but a snare made from fencing wire placed on a fence that is an obvious path for them will work , the goat tracks thru fences are not hard to spot , their hair all over the wires is a sure giveaway :)

I have a friend in Africa , Zimbabwe , who was telling about how poachers snare rhino with fencing wire as well as other large game .

dont limit yourself to little critters if there is bigger to be had :)

just a thort
 
aim for bigger game ?

its not unknown for people to snare gaots here , tho its not bragged about , but a snare made from fencing wire placed on a fence that is an obvious path for them will work , the goat tracks thru fences are not hard to spot , their hair all over the wires is a sure giveaway :)

I have a friend in Africa , Zimbabwe , who was telling about how poachers snare rhino with fencing wire as well as other large game .

dont limit yourself to little critters if there is bigger to be had :)

just a thort


CAREFUL!!!!! A lot of what you are suggesting will cost you a whole lot of money and some jail time in America, in Africa you are liable to get shot. If you are going to snare you better study the laws or you could find yourself in a heap of trouble. In a national forest just having snares on your person is probable cause that you are going to use them and can get you a big fat ticket, think about that when you put them in your PSK. What's the chances that a LEO will search you, pretty slim, but know you are taking that risk. Chris
 
Wow...thanks for that awesome introduction Runningboar. I've certainly caught a fair few animals in snares, but there is still so much I don't know.

The key to success is persistence. If you want to catch animals in snares, then you need to have snares set. I've had maybe forty or fifty percent catches in some of my more successful snare lines, but 5 to 25 percent is more typical. So if you want to be likely to catch one animal, then really it is a good idea to set maybe 20 snares. And even then you might miss out.

If you have a trail that you know for sure your target animals are using regularly, then a single snare set on that trail is likely to be successful. Maybe not on the first night, but eventually.

The neck is generally the area that folks try to snare. So you need to have a good idea of how the animal holds it head as it moves along. If there is a strange scent, or even an interesting scent, nearby...then the animal may have its head to the ground or up in the air rather than in its usual place...thus it may not get caught.

If you are going to use bait in conjunction with snares, then you need to be aware that the smell of the bait may cause the animal to have its head where you might not imagine it to be. You have to visualize how the animal is likely to move around your snare.

I get many, many snares knocked without catching a thing. But it is a great challenge.

The snare noose needs to be set to the optimum size, and at the best height from the ground. There is no 'best' one snare size. You have to consider the target animal an its habits. I believe that a high snare anchor is better than a low one in many cases, but sometimes the only practical alternative is to use a low anchor.

I did quite a big post here a while back on trapping/snaring. Maybe you will find it if you do a normal search, or maybe if you look for all my posts. Still, the thing that will teach you most is your own experience and desire.

America is the home of the steel wire cable snare. And boy have they been successful. But most of my animals have been caught in snares made from synthetic cord or rope. I would urge everybody to stay within the law, but if there is a question of maybe some anti-hunting folk giving you a hard time for snaring...then I suggest simple cord snares are a good tool. It would be very hard to prove that the cord was going to be a snare, whereas a wire cable snare with a lock and a swivel is fairly damning evidence. And cord has a multitude of other uses in the outdoors.

Cord suits me because it seems that it will be gentler to the animal...and is a heck of a lot easier to cut free from a non-target species. I generally don't use a locking eye on the snare. I figure if the snare breaks, the free-running eye should allow the snare to fall free from the animal within a short time, whereas a locked snare could hinder the animal and cause it pain and distress.

I always try to keep my snaring operations out of sight, and I only discuss what I do with great discretion. No point in upsetting the anti-hunter types. I also try to treat all animals humanely and with maximum respect. I'm much happier that way.

Recently I've made up some snare cord by unravelling a short bit of expensive, extremely strong, rope. I twisted enough fibres together to make some thin, tough snares designed for hogs. This hog was caught neatly around the neck. The snare was anchored high, and the hog strangled itself:
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Mostly I've been trying to snare Australian brushtailed possums. I can sell the fur and eat the meat. Most possum hunters would use poison or steel traps and get much better tallies than me, but I enjoy the challenge of using my own simple snares. Maybe one day I will develop a system good enough to be used widely as a great possum-catching alternative. Properly set snares are not nearly as dangerous as steel traps or poisons, and they can be set a bit more selectively than traps:
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There is a concern, somewhat justified, that animals may chew their way out of a snare unless it is made of wire. Indeed I've found some of my snares chewed off when I've checked them the next day. Monofilament nylon got chewed off regularly, as did some of my thinner braided snares. But these were the exceptions, I've caught dozens of animals which did not chew the snare off. Thicker braid may get chewed a bit occasionally, but not enough for it to cut right through.

All snares should be checked regularly. I think our law states that traps like these have to be checked by sunset the next day...but of course first thing the next morning is much more ethical. And it is a good idea to keep notes or do something so that you don't 'lose' any of your snares (which is easy to do if you set a lot in unfamiliar territory).

Here is a rabbit caught in a simple cord snare. It didn't seem to make any attempt to chew the snare:
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Good topic.
 
CAREFUL!!!!! A lot of what you are suggesting will cost you a whole lot of money and some jail time in America, in Africa you are liable to get shot. If you are going to snare you better study the laws or you could find yourself in a heap of trouble. In a national forest just having snares on your person is probable cause that you are going to use them and can get you a big fat ticket, think about that when you put them in your PSK. What's the chances that a LEO will search you, pretty slim, but know you are taking that risk. Chris

survival situation usualy means dropping a lot of laws regulating the taking of game

Im assuming most folk have a sense of what is OK when ...
 
I didn't realize you were talking about a survival situation, I thought you were talking about him practicing on bigger things now. Sorry, Chris
 
Hey , likely my fault , I read survival forums thinking "survival situation" not camping or practice ..
I likely took it for granted and replied thinking wrong about the OP .
 
I pratice using a snare actually setting 2 at least and to no avail I ain't caught squat. I rigged it up with an 8" diameter and on a path in the woods and also in a field but nothing,wow I think I'll ditch the snare and add more to my fishing tackle in my PSK, I know how to fish . Has anybody tried this method and actually caught something.just thought I would ask for a little advice.:D

Hey tony,

Don't give up. There's a learning curve just like there was with fishing.

I don't know how big the rabbits are in Texas, but up here in Ontario the largest size loop we're allowed to use is 4". Personally, I've done very little snaring, but it's my understanding from things I've read and talking to snare-meisters like Coote, you need a hell of a lot more snares than 2 if you want to eat regularly, and I guess that would be the point? :D

Doc
 
You could always make a deadfall type trap for a bit of fun and maybe get something you could eat. There has been quite a bit of good stuff posted on these 'whittled' traps over the last year or two.

Pict's Arapuca trap is a beauty for birds and small animals.

A baited spring-up snare can be a very effective trap too.
 
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