Snow & Nealley Hudson Bay Axe Review

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For this review I want to take a look at an axe, manufactured by a company, with a history spanning back to the golden age of axe manufacturing, the Snow & Nealley Hudson Bay Axe.

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Specifications:
Manufacturer: Snow & Nealley
Axe Head Weight: 1.75 lb
Axe Length: 24 inches
Axe Head Material: Unknown carbon steel
Handle Material: Hickory
Cost: $65.00

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The Snow & Nealley Hudson Bay Axe is a mid size axe, at a mid range price. It is large enough to do some serious work, but at the same time is small enough to be easily carried in a backpack. In terms of size, it falls right between the Gransfors Bruks Small Forest Axe and the Scandinavian Forest Axe.

In this review, I will try to compare the Snow & Nealley Hudson Bay Axe to both the Gransfors Bruks Small Forest Axe and the Scandinavian Forest Axe. Below you can see the Snow & Nealley Hudson Bay Axe next to the Gransfors Bruks Scandinavian Forest Axe.

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Here you can see it next to the Small Forest Axe as well.

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The Snow & Nealley Hudson Bay Axe has an excellent handle. It comes in at 24 inches, an inch shorter than the Scandinavian Forest axe, and 4 inches longer than the Small Forest Axe. It has a great shape, and is very comfortable. It is one of the best handle designs I have seen. The grain of the one I got was good, although not perfect, and it did contain some hard wood.

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The head of the Snow & Nealley Hudson Bay Axe has positive and negative aspects. In the picture below, you can see it next to the Gransfors Bruks Scandinavian Forest Axe. You will notice how smooth the transition is between the bit and the eye. This is exactly what I like to see in an axe head. This axe gets it exactly right. It does not have the abrupt transition and concavity that you see in the Gransfors Bruks. This creates less impediments for the wood, improving splitting performance. On the other hand, the bit itself is much thicker than I like. It is not horrible, and is clearly a design characteristic, bit the thicker bit impedes the chopping performance. (There was paint on the top portion of the head, which I sanded off)

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The head is attached to the handle with a metal wedge, and it held securely during testing. The bit is longer than that of the Gransfors Bruks Scandinavian Forest Axe.

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The balance of the axe is fairly good. The bit is heavier than the poll, so you see it leaning down a bit, but overall, it is not bad. This is important as it increases control of the axe during a swing.

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The axe comes with a beautiful leather sheath, although it seems to be a bit too small for the head.

The axe needed some sharpening when it arrived. I sharpened it, but did not change the grind prior to testing.

When it came to chopping, the Snow & Nealley Hudson Bay Axe was significantly outperformed by the Gransfors Bruks Scandinavian Forest Axe.

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In fact, it was also outperformed by the Gransfors Bruks Small Forest Axe, and axe with a lighter head ans shorter handle. This is clearly a result of the thicker bit.

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Like I mentioned before, the Snow & Nealley Hudson Bay Axe shines when it comes to splitting. The thick bit, combined with good head geometry, makes it an excellent splitter.

Performance characteristics aside however, I had some serious issues with this axe. It is one of the most poorly finished axes that I have ever seen. The head of the Snow & Nealley Hudson Bay Axe had a series of defects, which while not significantly impeding to the performance, show a very low (non existent) level of quality control.

To begin with, the eye is not aligned. It is aligned on the top section of the head, but on the bottom, it is closer to one wall than the other. This results in the head being at a slight angle to the handle. This is not an issue with the hanging process, but rather the head has been improperly made.

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On top of that, the head looks as if though a tractor has passed over it. It is skewed in every possible direction. It more closely resembles a trapezoid than a rectangle.

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Unfortunately, these are defects that can not be fixed with filing or grinding. They are also not something that a reasonable person can miss during the inspection process. Clearly, there is no quality control being utilized here. The axe is still technically usable, and it did not effect the testing in a significant way, but these are issues that should not exist with a $65 axe. I e-mailed Snow & Nealley, but I have not received a response from them.

The truth is that if you grind down the cutting edge and re-profile it, this axe can be an excellent tool. The lack of quality control however worries me a lot, and prevents me from recommending this manufacturer to any one else.

As far as I know, the manufacturer produces additional bushcraft appropriate axes: The Young Camper’s Belt Axe (1.25 lb head; 15 inches in length), The Penobscot Bay Kindling Axe (1.75 lb head; 18 inches in length), The “Our Best” 28" Axe (2.25lb head; 28 inches in length), The “Our Best” 30" Axe (3.5lb head; 30 inches in length) and The “Our Best” Double Bit Axe (3.25 lb head; 36 inches in length).

Ross
http://woodtrekker.blogspot.com/
 
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Thank you for the in depth review.
I've been using this Axe for a while and I whole heartedly agree with the edge.way too thick.I brought mine down with some elbow grease and a diamond hone.It cuts surprisingly well now.
It's also funny that you mentioned the blade cover being almost too small.Mine was too loose.I ended up loosing it in the woods on a hiking trip.
 
Disappointing; I was looking to pick up that very axe as a larger upgrade to my SFA. I think I will be sticking with GB and getting their Scandinavian axe instead. Or maybe a Wetterlings equivalent. Thanks for the review - I have your blog in my favorites :)
 
Great review. Thank you!

These used to be made in Bangor, Me. just a bit down the road from me. They closed their doors a few years ago. I think they kept some sort of local office in Brewer though.

I still see their axes in some of the local stores here, specifically Van Raymond Outfitters and Maine Military Supply (both in Brewer). I don't know if these are old stock or new, but they are atrocious. EVERY single one in every single model I have examined recently (~20) is screwed up in one way or another. The thick, uneven, blunt edges look like a child ground them. Not one I looked at would pass even the most basic QC check.

Too bad. They could probably be made servicable if reground and sharpend properly, but who wants to pay good money for an unfinished axe??? I have four Gransfors Bruks axes. Every one came 100% squared away. I'm sticking with them.

Scott

p.s. I have to agree, the sheaths and handles are good to go. Its the S&N heads that have all the deficiencies.
 
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Great review. Thank you!

These used to be made in Bangor, Me. just a bit down the road from me. They closed their doors a few years ago. I think they kept some sort of local office in Brewer though.

I still see their axes in some of the local stores here, specifically Van Raymond Outfitters and Maine Military Supply (both in Brewer). I don't know if these are old stock or new, but they are atrocious. EVERY single one in every single model I have examined recently (~20) is screwed up in one way or another. The thick, uneven, blunt edges look like a child ground them. Not one I looked at would pass even the most basic QC check.

Too bad. They could probably be made servicable if reground and sharpend properly, but who wants to pay good money for an unfinished axe??? I have four Gransfors Bruks axes. Every one came 100% squared away. I'm sticking with them.

Scott

p.s. I have to agree, the sheaths and handles are good to go. Its the S&N heads that have all the deficiencies.

Yeah--their offices are still in Brewer, but that's the only thing that stayed here in Maine. The heads are made in China and the handles come from Texas. Nothing wrong with Texas, of course, but it stinks that something claiming to be a Maine product really isn't. :(
 
Thanks for the review Ross. I'll stick with a Council Tool Hudson Bay axe, thank you. Made in USA by a company with a long history and great customer support.
 
Really too bad they outsourced to China. The Chinese will make good stuff if you pay them to, otherwise you get crap. Sad to see an old name go down the tubes :barf:

I have two of these axes from 1981 or so, when they were still made in Bangor.

I see on the web that Peavey Mfg is still around, they make a reasonably priced Hudson Bay axe, anyone tried it?
 
I see on the web that Peavey Mfg is still around, they make a reasonably priced Hudson Bay axe, anyone tried it?

Thanks for the tip. Looks like it's a Council Tools head, on a 28" handle (or is it really the same 26" as Council's?), presumably with a sheath as pictured (while Council has an optional sheath only for the 18 incher), AND at a lower list price than the one Council Tools sells ($40.23 instead of $48.10):

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http://peaveymfg.com/hudson.html

http://www.counciltool.com/DisplayCategories.asp?pg=displaycategories&category=12
 
Thanks, Ross. I was wondering how newer Snow and Nealley's were doing.
It really is unfortunate because they were making such great axes not
that long ago. It is terrible that this is happening to so many other
companies, going and outsourcing work to wherever it is cheapest.
In the end, it nips them in the ass.
 
Thanks, Ross. I was wondering how newer Snow and Nealley's were doing.
It really is unfortunate because they were making such great axes not
that long ago. It is terrible that this is happening to so many other
companies, going and outsourcing work to wherever it is cheapest.
In the end, it nips them in the ass.

Yep, that's what happens when a successful business unwisely focuses too much attention on the short term. Since 1980 it's been going on like a runaway train and now we're reduced to almost no choices and no where to employ all the unemployed:thumbdn: Anybody that trys to sell me "outsourcing" and "globalism" nowadays gets a swift goodbye from me:)

Thankfully, the Swedish companies are still around and it looks like Council Tool is trying to step up to the plate. I've gone around to probably 12-14 antique shops in my area several times and all I found is ground down axes that even with the maker's stamp are junk. So at least in my case I'm realistically left with buying current or recently used axes. My big axe is a Council Jersey Axe and the rest of the axes are European- Fiskars and Wetterlings. They all work great and no Chinese or Indian made junk!
 
The funny thing is that it is not that hard to make a good axe. People have been doing it for over a century with much less sophisticated technology than we have these days. You can make an axe anywhere, and the quality will be good as long as the company that puts their name on the product cares enough to look at the axes and remove the ones with defects.
 
Does anyone know when they started being outsourced?

Sorry, THESE are still made in good ole Maine.
I was talking more about most companies out there
who outsource their products to wherever it is cheapest.
However, I was also talking about the fact that companies
have started to do the cheapest thing possible, sending out
poorly hung axes for instance or using cheaper steels or removing
life time warranties because they know that society is moving
the disposable route, axes included.

It upsets me, no longer are Americans able to produce top quality
goods and services. We have grown into the stereotype given to us
by other countries, the stereotype of lazy, wasteful idiots.
 
I do believe it is time for an updated review of the now USA made Snow & Nealley Hudson Bay. A suggested updated review should compare it to the Council Hudson Bay.
 
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