So, I got an anvil for free

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Just picked up this little Peter Wright from my uncles father-in-laws alignment shop. Its beat up, chipped, rusty, but does still have really good rebound and doesn't ring too terribly. It sure is heavier than my RR anvil, but I'm wonering how salvageable the face is?

According to the 0-2-16 stamp, it weighed 72#. It doesn't appear too sway backed, but the corners are pretty terrible. I'll pick up a bunch of flap wheels to clean it up and try to level the face a bit.

Any advice would be great, this is my first real anvil and since I didn't pay anything for it, I don't really care if it just becomes a door stop.

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-Xander
 
I would not use anything besides a flapper on the top. PW are great anvils, they are steel tops and wrought bodys if I remember right so you only have a quarter inch or so of steel on top (depending on how much use its scene). Personally and not sure if others would recommend it or not but I personally would grind that edge smooth somewhat but dont dig in anywhere. It will help keep it from continueing to chip out.

It looks like you still have some good usable face on there.

They are dead quiet when you mount them correctly. I have one on a wood stump, put a layer of silicon under it, wrapped a chain around it, and fastened it to the stump and it doesnt make more then a dull thwap when I hit it.
 
Thanx for the tips. It is mushroomed out on those chips, so grinding back won't be too tough. It will be an improvement over my RR, but its gonna take some work! I will be sure to mount it tight once its done.


-X
 
PWs are not bad anvils, I have 2 of them, the top is a thin layer of steel welded to an iron body. As was said radius the broken edges and don't get too aggressive grinding the top. You will want to make a flat tool with nice clean just slightly radiused corners to go in your hardy for forming corners

-Page
 
Thanx Page, so just a basic block type tool for the hardy hole? I will be sure to just clean up the face, and not really try to reshape it.


-X
 
I saw a video on youtube last week where a guy was using a rough old anvil and he said it was even worse when he bought it. He went on to say that over time he has gradually filled in the low spots with hard surfacing rod to level out the top. It had no ring that I could hear and he even noted that it was a wrought body with a hard face. Do not know if this would help you or not, but I am also curious what some of the other guys around here think about his process.
 
On anvilfire there is a link to a fellow who made a mild steel anvil with hard facing rod for the surface. I bought the materials to try this but have been too time limited to make it yet. The maker was quite pleased with how it worked, and from what I remember, produces a superior anvil to the imports.
 
You could clean it up then get a piece of steel the size of the top heat treated and weld it on top
 
If you want to read up on repairing anvils stop on over at iforgeiron.com. They have gone over this a ton. There are several threads on repairing anvils and what not.

Your best bet if you want to try and get it repaired is find a hammer in going on in your area, join the local abana or whatever its called and get in touch with those guys. You may have one that knows how to do it and may hook ya up. With a cast iron body it will be easier then a wrought iron body but not sure what yours is, still either way it can be done from what I have read. The pain is heat treating it after wards.

Or just use it till you save up some more money and buy a new anvil or just keep looking for deals on ones in your area.
 
The difficulty in repairing an anvil is the mass of it. If the top is hardened first, then welded, the welding heat will affect the heat treat. If the top is welded, then heat treated, the volume of quenchant needed is prohibitive to the do it yourselfer.
 
if ya want to repair it this method works very well.

Tip Of The Month June 1999
Anvil Repair By Robb Gunter

Central Virginia Blacksmith Guild © Robb Gunter and Karl Schuler The Forgery School of Blacksmithing published in ANVIL Magazine, April 1998 (Used with Permission)

This process works well on wrought iron base anvils and cast iron base anvils with a good tool steel top. It was developed with the help of several metallurgists
and welding engineers at Sandia National Laboratories. Grind all surfaces to be welded. Expose good, clean material. Grind through all folds or fractured chips.
Chamfer any holes or severe depressions in preparation for welding. Preheat a wrought iron base anvil to 400 degrees and a cast iron base anvil to 450
degrees. The temperature can be verified with a Tempil Stick crayon available at Your welding supply store, which melts at a given temperature. (i.
e., 350 degrees, 400 degrees, 450 degrees. A propane-fired weed burner works well to preheat the anvil. A wood fire call also be used if care is taken to
wire brush off all carbon and smoke deposits before welding. Be careful to not overheat the anvil, particularly the heel and hardy hole area, as it's a thinner
cross-section and heats faster than the more massive parts. What You'll Need If your anvil has a wrought iron base and the damaged area goes through the
tool plate so that You have to begin the repair by welding to the wrought base material, use Stoody 2110 (or equal) 3/16" rod (DC reverse works best; however,
it will run AC); Unlimited passes. Expect 45 Rockwell C as welded. When you can finish building up the repair area in no more than three passes (or
layers thick), use Stoody 1105 (or equal) 1/8" rod (DC reverse, or AC); expect 50 to 52 Rockwell C as welded, which should be consistent with the original
hardness of the tool plate. The Stoody 1105 is a particularly good match for the W-1 tool steel tops of most anvils and is designed to be impact resistant.
When welding to a cast iron base anvil and on to the cast iron base, a layer of NI rod (high nickel) must be Put down first. Build Lip over the NI rod with Stoody
2110 (or equal); Unlimited passes (DC reverse); expect 45 Rockwell as welded. The last three passes (or layers thick), use Stoody 1105 (or equal) 1/8" rod (DC
reverse); expect 50 to 52 Rockwell C as welded if you don't exceed three passes thick. Cast steel anvils repair well using the combination of the Stoody 2110 and the
Stoody 1105 (last three passes). Repair to the Horn Repair to the horn of a wrought iron base anvil can be accomplished with 6010 welding rod as needed. If the point of the
horn is blunted or slightly broken off, we usually Put the end of the horn in a coal forge, heat it to bright orange and forge it out to the desired shape using a 12-lb.
sledge to back it up and a 2-lb. rounding hammer on top. Repairs to the horn of cast iron anvils is usually done by welding with the NI rod and grinding.
If the area around the hardy hole or pritchel hole needs repair, weld using the above detailed process; however, inserting a chill (or form) made of 1/16" sheet copper
into the respective hole before welding will save you a lot of grinding and filing to true up the hole. These hard surfacing rods used here to
repair anvils are quite gravity sensitive during the welding process. If you can lean the anvil at 445 degrees against a cinder block while welding on the edges,
you will have more of the somewhat expensive welding rod on the anvil and less on the floor. After all welding repair is complete and you are sure that there is sufficient
buildup to allow for grinding to the desired finish (check with a straightedge), post heat back to 400 degrees or verify with the Tempil Stick that the anvil is still
that hot from welding. Pack the anvil in vermiculite (crushed mica), available at most nurseries, to allow it to slow cool for a minimum of eight hours. This will minimize
the potential for stress cracking from welding. Obtaining the Desired Finish Grind the anvil to the desired finish. We start the grinding process
with a 24-grit cup stone on a largebody grinder It is quite aggressive at quickly removing metal. Be careful to keep it running flat (sparks coming off both sides of the cup
stone). Continue the grinding process using flex back metal sanding discs, starting with 24 grit and working down to 240 grit, in five or six steps. Until now, all edges
should be kept sharp and square. With 100 grit or finer sanding disc, radius the edges to your desired shapes. Near the anvil step the radii
are typically ground to a 3/16" or 1/4" radius and tapering to nearly no radius at the heel of the anvil. The edge of the step and the heel are usually left rather sharp
and only broken with a file. A final polish call be done with a Scotch Brite disc and you can usually see your face in the anvil top. This anvil restoration process has
been used on several hundred anvils around the country with great success.
 
Bill, excellent source of info! Now, to spend my hours/days/months learning how to weld to repair my free anvil! Lol! I think I will start with a flap disc and keep an eye out for a larger anvil on the used market. Welding is not a skill I find in particular need for my interests, nothing I can't have my buddies do for me anyways.

Forging is not real high on my priorities list, but a skil set I wouldn't mind learning slowly.


-X
 
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