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mendezj

mendezj

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Pray tell, is GEC related to Queen...? S&M related to Ontario...? What's going on with all these brands...? Northfield related to who...? What a mess. Thank you for enlightening me. :thumbup:
 
Here is what I know about the brands you listed.

Ontario owns Queen

Great Eastern Cutlery is a different company, and their brands are:
Great Eastern
Northfield
Tidioute

I think GEC was started by old Queen people/person.
 
Maybe this'll help. (Unknown source)
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Amherst Cutlery- Undetermined
Bear & Son- All Models made "in house" in Jacksonville, AL
Boker- Most Models made in Baumwerk Factory - Solingen, Germany / Models marked "Arbolito" made in Buenos Aires, Argentina / Models marked MAGNUM made in China
Browning- All Models made in China / Licensed & Imported jointly by Smoky Mountain Knife Works & Blue Ridge Knives
Buck- Some Models made in China (Model #'s with X7XX or XX8X are made in China) / Some Models made "in house" in Idaho
Buck Creek - All Models made by Friedrich Olbertz - Solingen Germany / Owned & Imported by FROST Cutlery
Bulldog - Some Models made by Friedrich Olbertz - Solingen Germany /Some Models made by GEC / Some Models made by Queen
*Models from 2007, 2008 & 2009
Canal Street Cutlery- All Models made "in house" in Ellenville, NY
Case - All Models Made "in house" in Bradford, PA
Chippaway Cutlery- All Models made in China / Owned & Imported by FROST Cutlery
Cinch- All models Made by Boker - Baumwerk Factory - Solingen, Germany
Colonel Coon- All Models made by Queen, Titusville, PA / Owned jointly by Smoky Mountain Knife Works & Blue Ridge Knives
Colt - All Models Made In China (same plant as Rough Rider) / Owned by United Cutlery / Licensed & Imported jointly by Smoky Mountain Knife Works & Blue Ridge Knives
Cripple Creek - Some Models made by Great Eastern Cutlery - Titusville, PA / Some Models made by Queen, Titusville, PA / Trademark Owned by Smoky Mountain Knife Works
Fighting Rooster- All Models made by Friedrich Olbertz - Solingen Germany / Licensed & Imported by Sterling Buster
Fox N Hound- Most models Made in China / Same plant as Rough Rider / Licensed & Imported jointly by Smoky Mountain Knife Works & Blue Ridge Knives (2 Models made in Italy by AKC or Fox)
Eye Brand -German Eye (Carl Schlieper) -All Models made by Friedrich Olbertz - Solingen Germany / Licensed & Distributed by Clarence Risner
Gerber- Most Models made in China Some Models made in Taiwan A few Models made in US (Check Stamp for Origin)
German Bull- All Models made by Friedrich Olbertz - Solingen Germany / Owned & Imported by FROST Cutlery
Great Eastern Cutlery -Tidioute Cutlery, Northfield Un-X-LD and Great Eastern Cutlery - Made in same Plant - Titusville, PA USA
Hen & Rooster- Most Models made by Boker - Baumwerk Factory, Germany / Owned & Imported by FROST Cutlery
Henkles - Recent Models made by Boker - Baumwerk Factory, Germany
Indian Head - -Some Models made in China / Some Models made by Friedrich Olbertz - Solingen Germany / Licensed & Imported by C. Risner
Imperial- Some Models made in China / Some Models made by Queen
Jim Bowie - All Models made by Friedrich Olbertz - Solingen Germany / Licensed & Imported by C. Risner
John Primble - All Models made in China / Licensed & Distributed through Blue Grass Cutlery
Ka-Bar Recent Collectable Folding knives - Frames and Blade made by Canal Street Cutlery and finished by KaBar
Keen Kutter- All Models made by Bear & Son - Jacksonville, AL
Kutmaster (Utica)- Made "in house" in U.S.
Kissing Crane- Most current Models made in China / One Model (Sodbuster) made in Italy / Trademark Onwed by United Cutlery / Licensed & Imported jointly by Smoky Mountain Knife Works & Blue Ridge Knives
Marbles- All Models made in China
MooreMaker - Most Models made by Queen in Titusville, PA / Some models by Bear & Son - B&S Models have a "B" in the Model #
Northwoods- All Models made by Queen in Titusville, PA
Queen - All Models made "in house" in Titusville, PA
Remington- Most Models made in China / Few Models made by Queen, Titusville, PA - incl Annual Bullet Knife / Some Models (incl New Official Boy Scout Traditional) made by Bear & Sons
Rigid- All Models Made In China / Trademark Owned by United Cutlery / Licensed & Imported jointly by Smoky Mountain Knife Works & Blue Ridge Knives
Robeson (Shuredge / Mastercraft)- All Models made by Queen, Titusville, PA / Licensed to Smoky Mountain Knife Works
Rough Rider- All Models Made In China / Owned & Imported jointly by Smoky Mountain Knife Works & Blue Ridge Knives
Schatt & Morgan- All Models made by Queen in Titusville, PA
Schrade- All Models Made in China / Owned & Imported by Taylor Cutlery Kingsport, TN
Shapliegh's- All Models made by Friedrich Olbertz - Solingen Germany / Imported & Distributed exclusively through Parkers
Utica (Kutmaster)- Made "in house" in US
Weidmannsheil - All Models made by Friedrich Olbertz - Solingen Germany / Imported & Distributed exclusively through Parkers
Winchester- Most Models produced by Queen in Titusville, PA / Some Models made in China / Licensed & Imported by Blue Grass Cutlery / Owned by Olin Corp.


* 2009 - 100 pcs - Single Blade Scout pattern 3 7/8" Rams Horn handles - with USA Blade Etch - made by Great Eastern Cutlery
* 2008 - 100 pcs - Two Blade Diamond Cut Pearl Sunfish Pattern 3 5/8" - USA Etched into Blade - made by Queen
* 2008 - 100 pcs - Two Blade Stag Muskrat 4 1/8" - made by Great Eastern Cutlery
* 2008 - 100 pcs - Three Blade Stag Whittler 3 1/2" - made by Queen
* 2007 - 100 pcs - Stag Gunstock 3 3/4" - made by Queen
* 2007 - 100 pcs - Two Blade Mtn. Man Trapper - 4 5/8" - made by Queen
* 2007 - 100 pcs - Pearl Horticulturist 3 5/8" - made by Queen
 
To expand on Stu's statements, GEC was started by Queen's long time chief knife designer and maker. He's happy to get out from under the "bean-counters", but of course has to count his own beans!:D
He knows an enormous amount of lore about the 60s through 90s cutlery industry, and cares greatly about making well constructed, attractive knives in the old manner.
GEC is right across town from Queen, and they are all on speaking terms, but I suspect Queen misses the man's skills!
 
A book was released this year, called "Great Eastern Cutlery, An American Tradition, by David L. Anthony, which has a lot of info on.... guess who! It is close to 200 pages.
 
Not all of Taylor's Scharades are made in China. Bear and Son has made some, Camillus made some between 2004 and 2007, when they also went bankrupt, and Great Eastern made some (they look like their own "scout"). GEC also made a few autos for them which are very spendy now. Utica is making some for Taylor as well. These aforementioned are all American. Before Schrade went under, there was a great deal of cross manufacturing going on among Schrade, Camillus and Imperial, both parts of the knives and whole knives. They are not always easy to sort out.
 
Goodness gracious...!! Thank you soooo much...!!!

For some reason I can't help thinking Deliverance. So many brands made by the same usual suspects. Northfield and Northwoods, on and on, no wonder I couldn't make head or tails. Thank you, Ed.

I guess the short of it is that Smoky Mountain Knife Works and Blue Ridge Knives market the lion share of the knives.

Ed's is a very important chart.

By the way, Ontario owns Queen and other brands.
 
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