So just how tough is a 124?

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So, I like to keep at least one full (width; exposed) tang knife around for times that call for such a tool. A survival knife if you will. Lately I've been reaching for my new 119brs instead of my ESEE 4 or BK16 as my woods knife. It is indeed a reasonably strong knife. I would be ok taking it into the woods as my only cutting tool, but the hidden tang does have its limits. So, I've been shopping around for something a bit stouter that is still classically styled to replace my tacticool knives. Naturally, the 124 came to the top of the list, but we all know that a survival knife should be carbon steel and certainly not hollow ground. I did finally find something that fills the bill, but every time I think about buying it, I think about getting the 124 instead. Buying both isn't possible right now.

So can anyone speak to the durability of the 124? I know the general feeling about batoning around here, but could the 124 be used in such a role? I'm not talking a 6 inch log, but maybe a 2 inch branch. I'm not building a cabin here, but I recognize the utility of using a knife to break down some kindling to get a fire going under adverse conditions. I don't carry a hatchet or ax because most of the areas I frequent are under a permanent burn ban. If I can't build fire recreationally, then I'm not dragging along a hatchet for fire building. I just need a knife that I can rely on, mostly during the winter months, to build a fire and some shelter should a true survival situation arise. Obviously very unlikely, but still possible.

I just love my Buck knives so much that it pains me to think about buying anything else. I know that most Buck knives are designed to be hunting or EDC knives, not bushcraft or survival knives, but the 124 is billed as a "survival" knife even in the old catalogs. I have yet to find any stories about one being broken on the web. Don't bother recommending the Nighthawk or the Ron Hood series as they're to tactical. The new red 104 doesn't do it for me either. And please no lectures about knife abuse.

So what do you folks think? Could the 124 be used as a true survival knife? I figure if Survivorman can baton a 119 with a rock, then the heavier 124 should be one tough knife, but I'd love to here some first hand accounts.
 
Welcome. I like the shape of the 124 as well and have used mine. For cutting (camp duty)and processing meat. IF I were going to mallet one I'd get one that was made in the 70's. As those have different steel and a semi-hollow grind. Which may fair better when pounded. Plus, it's fittings would be stainless, guard and pommel. Making these areas tougher to take the beating. All with a micarta handle. Put together more toward a beaters mind set. So, if I were going to do that activity that's the model I'd procure. DM
 
I agree with David. I haven't used my 124 for batoning, but knowing how's it is built, I wouldn't hesitate to use it for light batoning in a survival situation. Buck wasn't messing around when they designed the 124. It's a whole new animal compared to the 100 Series knives. There is a gentleman, on this forum, who recently replaced the Micarta with wood scales. After removing the Micarta, it was discovered that Buck silver solders the guard to the tang. An extra step that isn't found on many production knives.

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Here's mine - made around 1977. 440C blade.

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I wouldn't be afraid to use mine for the duties you mentioned. It's a thick sturdy knife. Mine is a 2012 in 420HC. It sits in the box because it's so pretty and I don't want to get it dirty. Now that's abuse! It's time to break it in. Thanks for the inspiration.
 
I do carry one in my main fishing Tackle Box and usually use it about every time I go out in the Boat as it doe's cover many issues while on the water ~~ good all around Knife.!**
 
So, I like to keep at least one full (width; exposed) tang knife around for times that call for such a tool. A survival knife if you will. Lately I've been reaching for my new 119brs instead of my ESEE 4 or BK16 as my woods knife. It is indeed a reasonably strong knife. I would be ok taking it into the woods as my only cutting tool, but the hidden tang does have its limits. So, I've been shopping around for something a bit stouter that is still classically styled to replace my tacticool knives. Naturally, the 124 came to the top of the list, but we all know that a survival knife should be carbon steel and certainly not hollow ground. I did finally find something that fills the bill, but every time I think about buying it, I think about getting the 124 instead. Buying both isn't possible right now.

So can anyone speak to the durability of the 124? I know the general feeling about batoning around here, but could the 124 be used in such a role? I'm not talking a 6 inch log, but maybe a 2 inch branch. I'm not building a cabin here, but I recognize the utility of using a knife to break down some kindling to get a fire going under adverse conditions. I don't carry a hatchet or ax because most of the areas I frequent are under a permanent burn ban. If I can't build fire recreationally, then I'm not dragging along a hatchet for fire building. I just need a knife that I can rely on, mostly during the winter months, to build a fire and some shelter should a true survival situation arise. Obviously very unlikely, but still possible.

I just love my Buck knives so much that it pains me to think about buying anything else. I know that most Buck knives are designed to be hunting or EDC knives, not bushcraft or survival knives, but the 124 is billed as a "survival" knife even in the old catalogs. I have yet to find any stories about one being broken on the web. Don't bother recommending the Nighthawk or the Ron Hood series as they're to tactical. The new red 104 doesn't do it for me either. And please no lectures about knife abuse.

So what do you folks think? Could the 124 be used as a true survival knife? I figure if Survivorman can baton a 119 with a rock, then the heavier 124 should be one tough knife, but I'd love to here some first hand accounts.


I have a 2012 LE 124 and think it would do just fine for 2 inch thick pieces of wood and other type chores in the wilds to help you survive, is it the best for it, no but is it a good solid knife yes.
 
I agree with David. I haven't used my 124 for batoning, but knowing how's it is built, I wouldn't hesitate to use it for light batoning in a survival situation. Buck wasn't messing around when they designed the 124. It's a whole new animal compared to the 100 Series knives. There is a gentleman, on this forum, who recently replaced the Micarta with wood scales. After removing the Micarta, it was discovered that Buck silver solders the guard to the tang. An extra step that isn't found on many production knives.

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Here's mine - made around 1977. 440C blade.

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Beautiful picture and knife.

I REALLY like the looks of this Buck knife too.

Thank you for sharing.

Cate
 
I've never owned a single 124, but that is next on my list,I'll try for the 440c version and if I can't find one I'll settle for 420.
 
I had mine out today just whittling walking sticks. I was also trying to turn a log into a wooden spoon. Let's just say the knife was better suited for the task then I was. Great knife in my mind.
 
If you want to make wooden shingles, get a froe. They are not that expensive.
 
So, I like to keep at least one full (width; exposed) tang knife around for times that call for such a tool. A survival knife if you will. Lately I've been reaching for my new 119brs instead of my ESEE 4 or BK16 as my woods knife. It is indeed a reasonably strong knife. I would be ok taking it into the woods as my only cutting tool, but the hidden tang does have its limits. So, I've been shopping around for something a bit stouter that is still classically styled to replace my tacticool knives. Naturally, the 124 came to the top of the list, but we all know that a survival knife should be carbon steel and certainly not hollow ground. I did finally find something that fills the bill, but every time I think about buying it, I think about getting the 124 instead. Buying both isn't possible right now.

So can anyone speak to the durability of the 124? I know the general feeling about batoning around here, but could the 124 be used in such a role? I'm not talking a 6 inch log, but maybe a 2 inch branch. I'm not building a cabin here, but I recognize the utility of using a knife to break down some kindling to get a fire going under adverse conditions. I don't carry a hatchet or ax because most of the areas I frequent are under a permanent burn ban. If I can't build fire recreationally, then I'm not dragging along a hatchet for fire building. I just need a knife that I can rely on, mostly during the winter months, to build a fire and some shelter should a true survival situation arise. Obviously very unlikely, but still possible.

I just love my Buck knives so much that it pains me to think about buying anything else. I know that most Buck knives are designed to be hunting or EDC knives, not bushcraft or survival knives, but the 124 is billed as a "survival" knife even in the old catalogs. I have yet to find any stories about one being broken on the web. Don't bother recommending the Nighthawk or the Ron Hood series as they're to tactical. The new red 104 doesn't do it for me either. And please no lectures about knife abuse.

So what do you folks think? Could the 124 be used as a true survival knife? I figure if Survivorman can baton a 119 with a rock, then the heavier 124 should be one tough knife, but I'd love to here some first hand accounts.

The 124 is tough in the sense of having a full tang. It is not tough insofar as the pommel and guards are concerned. Move your 124 too many times in and out of a sheath and you will see abrasions. Bump against something on a hike and you will scratch the pommel. The 124 is pretty and as a defensive weapons it has the advantage of having a full-tang, but I would never pound on one. For camp chores and pounding the BK knives are far superior. I don't know anything about the ESEE knives you have but they may be as well. Must you only have one knife on your camping trips?

ps. I have eight 124s, got my first one in the 1980s; so I like them a lot -- just not for pounding on.

Lawrence
 
TAH,

Man, I love that picture of your 124 with the Compass and match safe. Very well done right down to the shirt.

Is that an old Moss Heptawing? I still have and use mine.

LV,
 
The 124 is tough in the sense of having a full tang. It is not tough insofar as the pommel and guards are concerned. Move your 124 too many times in and out of a sheath and you will see abrasions. Bump against something on a hike and you will scratch the pommel.

The fact that the 124 has an aluminum guard and pommel, which scratches easy, doesn't equate to it not being a tough knife. IMO, its toughness comes from its wide 3/16" thick blade, soldered guard, Micarta handle and full tang construction. I would never pound on mine either, but if I had to, I think it would hold up rather well.

TAH,

Man, I love that picture of your 124 with the Compass and match safe. Very well done right down to the shirt.

Is that an old Moss Heptawing? I still have and use mine.

LV,

Thanks LV. Dang, you have a good eye. Yes, that is a Moss Hetawing that I've owned since the early 90s. I also have two Moss tents - all made in Maine. :thumbup:
 
ps. I have eight 124s, got my first one in the 1980s; so I like them a lot -- just not for pounding on.

Lawrence[/QUOTE]

I would like to ask if you noticed a difference the weight of the knife? It is my opinion the 124 made in the 70's and early eighties were heavier. The "grip" (handle) is too blocky for me on the new ones too.
 
ps. I have eight 124s, got my first one in the 1980s; so I like them a lot -- just not for pounding on.

Lawrence

I would like to ask if you noticed a difference the weight of the knife? It is my opinion the 124 made in the 70's and early eighties were heavier. The "grip" (handle) is too blocky for me on the new ones too.[/QUOTE]

Yes, my 80s 124 weighs 12.5 ounces and my 2014 124 weighs 13.5 ounces (using a mail scale). The grip on the 2014 124 is too blocky for me also..

Lawrence
 
Wasn't the Buck 124 the inspiration for the old Rock n Roll song 'TOUGH ENOUGH'?
 
Thanks for the reply Lawrence. I would have guessed the older ones were heavier. I guess I was wrong, .... again. :rolleyes:
 
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