Societal change for man

BrentH

BrentH

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Munk is right!
Sincerity is they key that opens the door to the "New Society"

Trouble is - thousands of years of experience has shown us that
To look a stranger in the eye, to shake his hand, to fight him..

Humanises & familiarises a stranger.

Online, we must take people as we see them on screen -
much room for error!

Having said/wrote that, this forum - perhaps among many,
Has proved to me, that genuine, sincere formanites can identify with each other & become "virtual" friends.

To vunerable individuals, very dangerous!
 
On one hand you have fraud- people think they can hide behind the screen. It doesn't really work, the truth does come out. But as for vulnerability- isn't the net an advantage over 'real space'? Physical violence is at the core of interactions. That's an always possible event. This is removed on the net.

Trouble is, these two things, fraud and elimination of threat of violence, give some people the freedom to misbehave. They think there is no accountability. There is, but we haven't discovered all the ways nor have the means to apply them yet. But we will. And in the meantime the words themselves are a giveaway, and there are forum rules, and even some limited ability to find ISP's and addresses and file complaints.

munk
 
Truth wins. Always. munk's right. Ultimately, I don't think anyone can hide who they are.
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Man is evolving, but slowly in comparison to technology.

Glad you feel welcome here.

John
 
Yep!
A real quandary for the sceptic!!

However - Nearly 12 months of researching the archives (before we lost them) convinced me that this is a special (specialized?)
place to hang out - lots of nutters - HIKV related...

Easy to relate..

Love it!
 
I'll repeat myself:

This technology is going to hurl man into his own future- he will catch up. The net form gives humans a new kind of interaction, across national borders, racial lines, sex lines, politics, and allows social relationships without fear of physical violence, or even being dependent upon 'good looks."

Our souls are going to start singing louder.
And places like HI forum, the best I ever found, are going to become famous- as well known as NightClubs were in the last century. We're the Cantina, the Casablanca of a new world.

And our kids are growing up in this. They aren't going to think this strange.


munk
 
OOOH Munk, you cite lack of "Physical violence" as a reason to embrace the net.
Emotional abuse is as dastardly and pervasive as the physical sort..

I prefer The physical variant.. bruises & stuff..

Which reminds me - Bruise may have a cryptic opinion on this subject.

Not too sure about cerebral stuff.

I Like blades!
 
With immense respect..

I see your vision.
I feel your passion!

Give it time my new friend.

I believe you have massive support here.

Looking ahead always draws apprehension..
perhaps justifiably.

Forgive my caution,

May be too emotive.. Willing to learn.

Regards, Brent.
 
You guys think too much into stuff... access to the internet should come with a free salt-shaker. The salt to be taken with anything you read while on it.
 
LOL - True!!
Thanks for the reality check!

Munk has a point though!

Navel gazing is quite popular when the snow is deep.
Or the door clangs shut..
 
I think the net is like life in that you get out of it what you put in. If your philosophy is to give people the benefit of the doubt, sometimes you'll get dissapointed--but I think the larger issue isn't whether people live up to some preconcieved expectation we have, but rather what the experience teaches us about ourselves.

I agree with the Dalai Lama: people who present us with true challenges are rare, and are an opportunity to grow and learn about how we deal with those challenges(paraphrased and misspelled). Do they make me angry? Yep. But I try to step back after I cool down and see if there was a lesson there. There usually is, or maybe always, but I can't always see it.

I told Munk in an email once that you are seeing more the real me than you would if you met me in person. It's true. If we met in person you might me the calm relaxed me (real me) or you might just see my shyness/anxiety that I sometimes get around strangers. But here, there is no body language, no opportunity for me to accidently judge you based on a from the hip first impression--mine are often dead wrong.

Mother Theresa said: "if you are kind people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives. Be kind anyway."

"if you are honest and frank, people may cheat you. Be honest and frank anyway"

"you see in the final analysis, it is between you and God--it was never between you and them anyway"

I would add that if you believe as I do that god is within each of us, and within all things, then all you are saying is that any conflict is just between egos. Our souls don't argue with each other, but egos love nothing more.
 
When I met some other forumites a few years ago at the blade show. Dan, Shappa, Mark, and a few others, I had a thought. Anyone of them I could have walked by on a street and never knew it, but at the same time, we shared so much online.

I believe that online communication fills some of our needs to have social contact and interact with kindred spirits or like company. Between work, school, kids and MA's, I don't get to spend much time with khukuries anymore, but I am still fond of them. It's the people that brings me back to this forum over and over for around 8 years now. I can't even remember my first screenname. I'm starting to ramble. I'm not even sure I have a point to make, but I do enjoy the heck out of this forum. It is the friendliest place on the web, and usually the most genuine.
 
MauiRob,

I think I agree. I think many who see me in person have an over-generous opinion of me.
 
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