Sog Demo 2.0 VS Gerber LMF Infrantry 2

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Ok so, about a year about I started building my bug out bag. I got everything for it except a decent survival/tactical knife. I had bought a Gerber LMF 2 and just stuck it in there. Now, its been about 2 months after and I bought a Sog Demo 2.0, always wanted one. After researching both knives, they seem to both be survival/tactical knives. I know I want to carry one of these in my bag, but cant decide. Which one would you guys pick honestly?

Thanks,
GotThemKnives
 
Seems like there has been some good advice in the two or three General forum threads you have opened on the same subject in the last couple weeks.

Niether BTW...they are both survival knives becuase only their marketing departments say so.
 
Seems like there has been some good advice in the two or three General forum threads you have opened on the same subject in the last couple weeks.

Niether BTW...they are both survival knives becuase only their marketing departments say so.
Well, when I opened those threads I forgot to mention I didnt want to buy another knife. I already have some very good knives sitting around. I narrowed my need for a good survival/tactical knife down to these 2. I love both but they aldo have complications. Like on the Gerber it isnt full tang. And on the Sog the nearly full serrated spine makes it difficult to baton with it. I just wanted to see if anyone owned either of these knives and their personal opinions whether they would depend on it or not. In retrospect, I shouldve just mentioned everything in the FIRST thread to make matter easier.
 
I also looked on both manufactuer sites to see if they were both survival and tactical knives. Of course, they had to both be. Two of my favorite knives, pitted against each other haha.
 
I also looked on both manufactuer sites to see if they were both survival and tactical knives. Of course, they had to both be.

Needing a knife to survive is purely situational. You use whatever you have, whether it's a 6" fixed blade or the blade on a multi-tool. Oops, same exact thing for a "tactical" knife, except you use it for . . . you know . . . taking out sentries and stuff.

Anyway, back in the real world, a tactical/survival knife should be worn on your person, not stowed in a bag where you can't get at it. You seem to have come up with reasons for not buying each - Gerber's tang and SOG's spine - but you need to weigh these sorts of things against your expectations for the knife. Not saying you should buy one, but consider the classic Ontario pilot's survival knife. It's not full tang AND it has a serrated/sawtooth spine, yet I've seen the torture test videos showing it being used for batoning, demolishing cinder blocks, etc. If you absolutely need to have the sturdiest knife possible AND want to baton, make those requirements. Otherwise, well, it's a crap shoot.

Personally, I have the LMF II as well as the slightly smaller Gerber Prodigy and numerous other large fixed blade knives, but the aforementioned Ontario is the one I actually carry in the woods on hikes.
 
Needing a knife to survive is purely situational. You use whatever you have, whether it's a 6" fixed blade or the blade on a multi-tool. Oops, same exact thing for a "tactical" knife, except you use it for . . . you know . . . taking out sentries and stuff.

Anyway, back in the real world, a tactical/survival knife should be worn on your person, not stowed in a bag where you can't get at it. You seem to have come up with reasons for not buying each - Gerber's tang and SOG's spine - but you need to weigh these sorts of things against your expectations for the knife. Not saying you should buy one, but consider the classic Ontario pilot's survival knife. It's not full tang AND it has a serrated/sawtooth spine, yet I've seen the torture test videos showing it being used for batoning, demolishing cinder blocks, etc. If you absolutely need to have the sturdiest knife possible AND want to baton, make those requirements. Otherwise, well, it's a crap shoot.

Personally, I have the LMF II as well as the slightly smaller Gerber Prodigy and numerous other large fixed blade knives, but the aforementioned Ontario is the one I actually carry in the woods on hikes.

Accually, I own both a LMF and the Sog. I also own a Ontario Pilot Survival knife. The main reasons I listed the problems with the two knives because I wanted to see if maybe none of it really mattered. I accually put the Ontario in my bag before I switched. And with the knife being in the bag thing, when SHTF, Im going to put it on my belt. The reason I switched out the Ontario for the Gerber is because I felt that the Ontario was more of a survival knife than a tactical knife. The Gerber, after I took a look at the website, doubles as a tactical and a survival and so does the Sog. After some consideration, I truly the believe the Sog is strictly a fighting knife because of its history. Not saying you couldnt use it in a survival situation, like you were saying, you use whatever you have on you. I felt the Gerber met the requirments for a survival more than the Sog did. I dont even know why I listed the Sog as my choice, I mainly got it because of its history. And with the Gerber, you get leg straps, makes it alot more versitile. More or less, after your comment, I believe I will keep the Gerber with me. I also want to add that I too keep the Ontario for outdoor use. Excellent knife. Also Id like to thank you and the other commenters for the advice.
 
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I don't own either but I do have experience with a few SOG fixed blades (Tech bowie, Seal Team, Seal Pup, Gov Tach). I always thought about the LMF but could never get over the tang issue and the amount of plastic on the handle. For some reason I have come across a few to many vids of the LMF plastic parts breaking, even with light batoning. I'm not saying the SOG won't or hasn't broken but in just a light review of searches on both it takes no time at all to come up with LMF failures. Even without the vids (never believe everything on the internets and what not) the plastic on the LMF just bugs me.

Like others have said neither may be the best. I would personally go with an ESEE 6 (and have!). But from what you have, I would pick the SOG based on my experience with other SOG fixed blades and the above issues with the LMF II. One area the LMF II does win is the Sheath though...
 
I don't own either but I do have experience with a few SOG fixed blades (Tech bowie, Seal Team, Seal Pup, Gov Tach). I always thought about the LMF but could never get over the tang issue and the amount of plastic on the handle. For some reason I have come across a few to many vids of the LMF plastic parts breaking, even with light batoning. I'm not saying the SOG won't or hasn't broken but in just a light review of searches on both it takes no time at all to come up with LMF failures. Even without the vids (never believe everything on the internets and what not) the plastic on the LMF just bugs me.

Like others have said neither may be the best. I would personally go with an ESEE 6 (and have!). But from what you have, I would pick the SOG based on my experience with other SOG fixed blades and the above issues with the LMF II. One area the LMF II does win is the Sheath though...

Idk how or why some peoples break so easy, quality control issues maybe? My cousin has had one for years and uses it camping and hunting and nothing ever broke on it except part of the sheath when it got hooked when he was jumping down out of a tree stand.
 
I also looked on both manufactuer sites to see if they were both survival and tactical knives. Of course, they had to both be. Two of my favorite knives, pitted against each other haha.

Well..if the manufacturers say they are survival/tactical in their ad copy....they must be survival/tactical! :rolleyes:

Seriously...if you have used both in survival/tactical situations (whatever than means....) then great.

But if you are thinking they will be appropriate for survival/tactical (whatever that means...) because their ad copy says so, I would suggest not doing that. Manufacturer claims don't add to your skill set.

The vast majority of times, when people are asking about "survival"...they are talking about leisure outdoors activity like camping. ("Bugging out" is pretty similar....it sounds like most peoples' bug out plan is to go camping...:confused:) Will those two work for camping? They won't kill you (what would?) and they might be fun to play with, but they aren't particularly effective leisure outdoors activity/camping/hunting/field knives.

So I guess either would be fine. Throw the one you like less in the bag, keep the other one out to play with.
 
Any knife can be a survival knife. I could probably survive with just my spyderco dragonfly, not that I'd want to. Especially if I had to defend myself against a grizzly. Remember, something is better than nothing. Like marcinek said (God I hate having to agree with him) throw the one you like least in the bag and keep the nice one out to play with.
 
It boils down to which of the two would you trust with your life. A lmf 2 ASEK is what I use in the woods and haven't had an issue with its durability yet and I've beaten the hell out of it
 
Accually, I own both a LMF and the Sog. I also own a Ontario Pilot Survival knife. The main reasons I listed the problems with the two knives because I wanted to see if maybe none of it really mattered. I accually put the Ontario in my bag before I switched. And with the knife being in the bag thing, when SHTF, Im going to put it on my belt. The reason I switched out the Ontario for the Gerber is because I felt that the Ontario was more of a survival knife than a tactical knife. The Gerber, after I took a look at the website, doubles as a tactical and a survival and so does the Sog. After some consideration, I truly the believe the Sog is strictly a fighting knife because of its history. Not saying you couldnt use it in a survival situation, like you were saying, you use whatever you have on you. I felt the Gerber met the requirments for a survival more than the Sog did. I dont even know why I listed the Sog as my choice, I mainly got it because of its history. And with the Gerber, you get leg straps, makes it alot more versitile. More or less, after your comment, I believe I will keep the Gerber with me. I also want to add that I too keep the Ontario for outdoor use. Excellent knife. Also Id like to thank you and the other commenters for the advice.

Dude, I think you are either very young and hung up on the cool sounding marketing terms like Tactical and Survival, or you have been perhaps hanging out with the local Ninja's for too long.

You need to drop the facination with the words Tactical and Survival as both are marketing terms designed to attract young/enexpierenced/or uneducated knife people to buy thier blade over the next maker's.

For your SHTF bag the primary things your knife should be are,

Full Tang (No Exceptions on this one, some may argue differently however it is stated by many sources Full Tang)
Easy to maintain (you need to be able to field sharpen, keep from rusting)
4"-8" blade length (there are many opinions, mine is that it is better to have more than necessary than to have less than needed)
Fairly thick spine 3/16" is ideal (might be you need to pry, dig, or baton)
Ergonomic (you don't want hotspots to develop or blisters)
Quality sheath (you need to be able to safely carry it, and have enough retention to not lose the knife)
Design needs to fit the intended or anticipated tasks (skinning, carving, and cutting are the primary uses. Things like self defense and combat are unlikely and therefore are not super important)

Other things to consider

a back-up knife in case you lose the primary,
smaller or larger knife for other tasks your primary does not excel in (this could be your secondary knife)
If you choose Carbon steel for your primary your secondary should maybe be stainless
If you choose a large fixed blade your secondary could easily be a quality Multi-tool or Folder.
If you choose a small fixed blade your secondary should be an Axe, Tomahawk, Kukri, Machete, or other large blade.
Carry some sort of saw, even a SAK saw is better than nothing.

Stop focusing on the words used to sell the knives and pay more attention to the overall design and function of the knife and you will be much more prepared for disaster.
 
Idk how or why some peoples break so easy, quality control issues maybe? My cousin has had one for years and uses it camping and hunting and nothing ever broke on it except part of the sheath when it got hooked when he was jumping down out of a tree stand.

The name Gerber is why they break. In my expierence they have always been BudK quality, and so many I have bought failed under normal/light use that I refuse to waste another penny on thier product. YMMV thats just my expierence FWIW.
 
Dude, I think you are either very young and hung up on the cool sounding marketing terms like Tactical and Survival, or you have been perhaps hanging out with the local Ninja's for too long.

You need to drop the facination with the words Tactical and Survival as both are marketing terms designed to attract young/enexpierenced/or uneducated knife people to buy thier blade over the next maker's.

For your SHTF bag the primary things your knife should be are,

Full Tang (No Exceptions on this one, some may argue differently however it is stated by many sources Full Tang)
Easy to maintain (you need to be able to field sharpen, keep from rusting)
4"-8" blade length (there are many opinions, mine is that it is better to have more than necessary than to have less than needed)
Fairly thick spine 3/16" is ideal (might be you need to pry, dig, or baton)
Ergonomic (you don't want hotspots to develop or blisters)
Quality sheath (you need to be able to safely carry it, and have enough retention to not lose the knife)
Design needs to fit the intended or anticipated tasks (skinning, carving, and cutting are the primary uses. Things like self defense and combat are unlikely and therefore are not super important)

Other things to consider

a back-up knife in case you lose the primary,
smaller or larger knife for other tasks your primary does not excel in (this could be your secondary knife)
If you choose Carbon steel for your primary your secondary should maybe be stainless
If you choose a large fixed blade your secondary could easily be a quality Multi-tool or Folder.
If you choose a small fixed blade your secondary should be an Axe, Tomahawk, Kukri, Machete, or other large blade.
Carry some sort of saw, even a SAK saw is better than nothing.

Stop focusing on the words used to sell the knives and pay more attention to the overall design and function of the knife and you will be much more prepared for disaster.

Well, that would have to be the Sog then. Full tang, would be excellent for such tasks. I do keep a backup knife on me as well, the Ontario RAT Model 1, along with my Gerber Suspension. I am 14 btw, with the whole "tactical and survival" thing is just being prepared. I try to get the most of knives. Say if someone were to raid my camp, id want a knife to be able to go through my camping tasks, but will also be able to use for self defense. I would say that you could baton with the Sog since about an inch or 2 isnt serrated. That area could be used for such a thing. Ive seen videos and reviews on both how the knives excell in campung tasks. I don't like to pick favorites haha, but I do enjoy the Demo alot more. But, when S does hit the fan, the. I guess it wouldnt matter at all. I guess Id have to go with the Sog considering the full tang and closer look at the spine. Its a pretty strong knife from what Ive heard. Thank you and everyone else.
 
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