SOG Field Pup vs. Gerber Big Rock

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So, I wanted to pick up a lightweight, inexpensive fixed blade for hiking/camping duty, and for evaluation as a survival knife (though an actual survival situation in the areas I'd be in would be hard to come by).

I saw that Mora has a new line of knives labeled as Bushcraft knives. I ordered some books to keep me company on an upcoming trip, and tossed one on my Amazon order, the Bushcraft Triflex:

http://www.amazon.com/Mora-Bushcraf...e=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1275947443&sr=1-1

I just got done printing the RMA and UPS label for it.

Overall, not a bad-looking knife. For $25 after tax, I expected a more nicely-finished knife than the standard Mora, and for the most part, it is. The sheath seems decent for a plastic type, with good retention, a drain hole, and a dangler belt loop that seems pretty firmly attached. The belt loop is also made of more flexible material, which probably helps durability. The handle is comfy, and secure, though not a perfect fit for my hand. Definitely usable. The blade, though well polished, and sharp, had several burs that I noticed on first inspection. No biggie, though not what I'd expect from their higher end (for them) knife. However, the very tip is bent, or has excess material on it. It's a small thing, and I can't see well enough to make the distinction anymore. The knife was sealed with plastic around the mouth of the sheath, so I'm sure it came from the factory like this.

Well, it's going back. I've got plenty of knives in the same price range, and none came with unfinished blades.

So, I was thinking in the same general price range, either a SOG Field (*not* Seal) Pup or a Gerber Big Rock (plain edge) would be worth trying. Both seem to be well regarded for their price point. Both come from companies I consider hit or miss on quality (Gerber due to outsourcing and Internet gossip, and SOG from prior ownership), and both are a bit lacking in the sheath department, as with most lower priced knives. Other than those caveats, both knives seem more than adequate to the task, and fairly durable. I've inspected the Big Rock in a retail store, though it was the partially-serrated model, and it seemed pretty decently made. The impression I got was that they saved money on the blade material (and I'm not a huge steel snob, I've had other good knives in 440A, and it's not terrible) and the sheath. The grip seemed a bit odd for finer work, but still comfortable. I haven't had a chance to handle the Field Pup in person.

I'd love to hear opinions/comparisons from the collective mind here. I did try a site search but couldn't find a head to head comparison between the two. I've found plenty of threads on each knife though.

I'm also open to other suggestions for knives in the same price range (which is to say thirty bucks or less). I've already got the Cold Steel Roach Belly and Canadian Belt Knife. Both of these are probably good enough for my purposes, though I'm not enamored of their grips. They're OK for general use, but a bit slick and don't have shapes that exactly lock the hand in to prevent finger slippage.

Thanks in advance.
 
My experience with Gerber's steel is not a good one. For some reason it just seems so damned brittle... general light around the camp tasks have shredded the edge on both the LMF (Now gone) and the Prodigy, which I keep around because it's nice to fondle-it has a super ergo handle. Try the BuckLite, Daimondback Outfitter or some of the other practical USA made Buck designs. They're 20 dollars ish, good quality overall. Check the Condor Rodan/Lifeland Hunter/Bushcraft/Nessmuk, Becker BK11, R Murphy Belt Knife, Ranger Shiv...
 
I like the design of the Gerber better.

The SOG blade is made from better stuff has a good heat treatment. I don't know about the treatment of the Gerber.

I wouldn't be swayed at all by the SOG having better steel when I offset that against the design. [I was amongst many others in the back when that implored SOG to kick up a grade of steel in their users. They were using AUS 6, kinda 440A ish, and a push up to AUS 8 / 10 seemed appropriate at the price point given what others were using. They did on loads of them and the design suffered as a consequence. How I wish I shut my yap and settled for the much better Seki designs in a lower steel].

I'm not in the US but a quick scan found me a Buck Omni for $30odd so a better search could well bring that within your brief. There's a Gerber Gator FB out there somewhere too that might be your kind of thing if you can get a bargain on one. Still, the Big Rock would be winning for me out of this bunch.
 
Let me say that I am by no means a steel expert or a knife expert by any means but I did own a Big Rock for sometime and to say the least I was less then pleased with it.

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As you can see from the photo the serrations chipped out on it really bad, and you know what I was doing with it when this happened? I was hacking at some 3" diameter cottonwoods, which is by no means a hard wood.

I then tried to contact Gerber about this to see if they would fix the issue and all they did was give me the run around and I sent them the blade, they sent it back to me saying it was not covered under warranty since it was normal ware and tare on the blade. I think this is stupid since you can clearly see that the blade is barely used.

After that experience with them ill never buy a Gerber product again.
 
Thanks for the feedback. Not looking good for Gerber in the service department.

Thanks to both Payette and BaldTaco for the reminder about the lower end USA made Bucks.
 
I have a Big Rock (non-serrated version) and I think it is a great knife for the price... Mine hasn't had any problems although I have not put it to "heavy use". In terms of the shortcomings posted here, for $28 delivered I don't expect a lot in the way of customer service or "high quality". I think the Big Rock delivers way beyond my expectations...

Features I like > SS (440A) blade, full tang, lanyard hole pommel, handle is soft & grippy (good for hand held cutting tasks). Full flat grind (almost) - good cutter/slicer. Pointy blade shape - reasonably good piercer. Grip is a good size - not too small. Light weight. Good "heft" without being too big or bulky.

Features I don't like > Soft grippy handle strikes me as not good from a durability point of view - especially under hard use. Fortunately, the grip is held on by 2 torx screws and can be replaced with anything you like if you prefer. Sheath is nothing to write home about - functional but that's about it - "good" doesn't come to mind...

Just my 2 cents, YMMV... ;)

I have no experience with the SOG.
 
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Gerber isnt as bad as many people say they are. Atleast mine have been pretty good. Ive owned a LMF II (the 12c27 version) and a Gator II and i thought both of them were pretty good for the money.

I havent owned the Big Rock, but i handled one at a gear shop and i liked what i saw. It had a nice blade shape and comfy grip. I cant comment on durability and steel though. Ive heard positive and negative things though.

Have you considered the Gator Fixed Blade? If its as good as its folding sibling then id recommend it in a heartbeat.
 
It may be slightly larger than the others but I'd try a Blackjack Grunt, I have the old version that was made in Japan but I have heard that the ones made in China are still great value !
 
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