SOG in-game (uncredited)

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Terrae

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A bit of trivia, mostly--I first fell in love with the SOG Pentagon while playing the video game "Hitman II" -- at that point, I only wished it was a knife. It was a few years later (this week, embarrassingly enough), I found out it existed in material form. It's in the mail.

It's not one of the most talked about knives in this forum--but it's admittedly less utilitarian than the field/bowie knives primarily discussed. Any reassurance or chastisement for this particular aesthetic-based impulse purchase?

---Here's a photo of the knife as it appears in game, referred to only as "Combat Knife".
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---and the real thing
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Terrae, welcome to BladeForums. Glad you finally found your knife, obviously it's supposed to be yours since you wanted it for so long :D It is a very nice knife, I don't own one but have handled them many times.

Your going to love this knife, it feels amazing in the hand, and all I have handled have been razor sharp. Keep us posted on what you think when you get it.


Robbie Roberson ;)
 
the only thing "wrong" with such an impulse buy is not having purchased two of 'em !!

I would think the Pentagon would be a great boot knife. And I can see the utility of both plain and serrated edges on one blade.

Great Choice !! Enjoy !!

Cheers,

Carl
 
I'm giddy in anticipation of its arrival -- almost bothered by how excited I am about it. Maybe I'm just afraid of how I've seen it used *eh hem*

I need to invest in a pair of full boots--mine are all mid-height, and I'm not entirely sure how well that will work out with the Pentagon. Pentagon mini, maybe, but the full package might demand a bit more space. There's always inside jacket pocket or belt mount, however. Nonetheless, it'll be a lot easier to carry than my Buck Special. My only apprehension is of the general aesthetic. May frighten women and children. ;)

--about "not buying two of them" being the problem with such an impulse buy, I almost did--I grabbed the folding version, too!
 
Terrae, Welcome and congrats on the new Purcheses. I have the Pentagon and Mini Pentagon. Love both of them. Had the PE-II but traded it.. Going to get a PE some day soon. :) Which folder did you get?

Heber
 
Thanks for the welcome, wildmanh. You don't happen to know the legality of carrying a Pentagon, do you? It varies from state to state, but the laws are so vague. For instance, here in virginia they explicitly ban stilettos, daggers, bowies and a few others--but make no effort to actually -define- these "weapons", and give no blade length specification. So for all I know, my hunting knife could be called a bowie by the courts and the Pentagon could be jumbled in with dagger. The problem is, they're all sharp. Sharp tools are evil.

For the fold, I picked up the PE14--which is a bit over an inch shorter than the PEII, I believe. I'm curious -- why'd you opt to trade in your PEII with plans to pick up PE?
 
Terrae said:
Thanks for the welcome, wildmanh. You don't happen to know the legality of carrying a Pentagon, do you? It varies from state to state, but the laws are so vague. For instance, here in virginia they explicitly ban stilettos, daggers, bowies and a few others--but make no effort to actually -define- these "weapons", and give no blade length specification. So for all I know, my hunting knife could be called a bowie by the courts and the Pentagon could be jumbled in with dagger. The problem is, they're all sharp. Sharp tools are evil.

For the fold, I picked up the PE14--which is a bit over an inch shorter than the PEII, I believe. I'm curious -- why'd you opt to trade in your PEII with plans to pick up PE?
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:) Yeah, the PE-I is 1" shorter then the PE-II. My PE-II was on loan to a friend that really like it.. Wanted him to do some work for me, so I traded the PE-II for the work.. Kind of having second thoughts, but it's okay. He is into BIG folders, and I happen to like 3" to 4" blades, so it works out. The PE-II is a little Big for me folder wide. Since the PE-I is only 4" long it will suite me better. :) BTW I plan on getting another PE-II for my collection when I have more money, but for now, my friend will enjoy it. :D

Those laws are crazy! :eek: Utah has some pretty nice laws. They care more about intent then the knife. except Auto's and stiletos. Those two Civilians can't carry. Other then that, it's cool. :) I regularly carry either my Pentagon or Mini Pentagon as backup while hiking or camping. :D

Congrats again on the two new knives. And please update us when you get them and what you think of them.

Heber
 
Terrae,
keep us posted about your thoughts and impressions when you receive the SOG !!

here's a starting point for knife laws by state:
http://pw1.netcom.com/~brlevine/sta-law.htm

as I've heard it said, "you have no rights except those that your lawyer can get for you." A clever way of stating that there are differences of opinion as to what is legal and what isn't, and what is legal where & when.
one cop will bother you about it, one cop won't.
if a cop does bother you about it, then your lawyer gets to argue the case.

as a cop friend told me, "you can do what you want to do, but that doesn't mean someone else will agree with you. And if that someone else is a cop, well, it could slow you down some."


Cheers,

Carl
 
Much to my surprise, the Pentagon showed up this morning! I'm on daddy duty--so I haven't had time do toy with it much, but at this point it has already exceeded my expectations. It looks great, is sturdy, beautifully balanced and is a pleasure to hold. How does the mini compare? If it's anywhere near as 'nice', I might look into one as a boot knife. The Pentagon is ideal for an over the shoulder or belt mount.

The only thing I'm not sure about is the sheeth--not sure how I feel about their Kylex solution. It has quite a few mounting options and is definitely sturdy, but it's a bit bukly. Might have to try to find something a bit more slimming for every day use, since I'm not in a combat zone.

As for knife law, here it's:

If any person carries about his person, hidden from common observation... (ii) any dirk, bowie knife, switchblade knife, ballistic knife, razor... he shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor, and such weapon shall be forfeited to the Commonwealth... B. This section shall not apply to: 1. Any person while in his own place of abode or the curtilage thereof...
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Which is really quite vague when dealing with hunting knives or [What would the Pentagon fall under?] other non-mentioned knives.

you have no rights except those that your lawyer can get for you
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is definitely true. I guess I just keep wishing they'd put down some clearly defined words down so I wouldn't always feel like I'm carrying blind. Since there's no length limit defined and no way to mistake this knife for a Bowie, it seems that for all intents and purposes it would be A-OK. But things are seldom as they seem ;)
 
Terrae said:
A bit of trivia, mostly--I first fell in love with the SOG Pentagon while playing the video game "Hitman II" -- at that point, I only wished it was a knife.
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I noticed that too while playing Hitman II. I thought it was cool that the game designers actually did some research on knives to make the game more realistic. Hitman II is one of my favorite games, although the 3rd one seems a bit slow.
 
Terrae,

I think you'll discover that your local cops/lawyers/judges will label the Pentagon as a "dirk" since a dirk is double-edged.
we here in Kali cannot buy via mail order any double-edged knife, and as I recall the "reasoning" is because the knife is classified as a dirk.
and the sea lawyer in me "reasons" that because of the "dirk" classification, no length requirements need be set forth since possession itself is a "problem."

However, note carefully in your case that "concealment" is the concern in the wording. I have read that some cops get nervous when seeing the clip of a folding knife displayed on the outside of the pants pocket or upon the belt. Some cops will stop and ask questions and ultimately commit extortion in order to gain personal possession of the knife, much to the chagrin of the former (and lawful) owner. So, like, whacha gonna do ??
In the same way, full & lawful display of a belt-hung Bowie could quite easily result in the same extortion.... or a quick trip to the slammer and a call to your favorite lawyer.

We as kids didn't play "cops & robbers" for nothing..... and if you ain't a cop, then by default you're a robber in a cop's eye, until your lawyer proves otherwise.... which still ain't no proof at all in a cop's eye.
Not that I don't like cops, a couple of very good friends are LEO's by profession. But I've read too many articles that LEO's cannot afford to be lax at any time, said laxity can too easily result in their injury and/or demise. They just don't know who they are dealing with when they begin a conversation..... and that makes me very sad.
And very scared and very wary... just like them.

Cheers,

Carl
 
I think you'll discover that your local cops/lawyers/judges will label the Pentagon as a "dirk" since a dirk is double-edged.
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I could see dagger, maybe, but isn't a dirk traditionaly an exceptionally long dagger? Basically a short sword? This, too, was my concern, nonetheless.

But I've read too many articles that LEO's cannot afford to be lax at any time, said laxity can too easily result in their injury and/or demise. They just don't know who they are dealing with when they begin a conversation..... and that makes me very sad.
And very scared and very wary... just like them.
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. . . and this is the very reason many of those carrying are carrying, even when not working/needing them. Some places more than others--my place of residence is definitely one I'm wary of. Just a few more months, though.
 
yessir to all.......

Anyway, away from politics and back to SOG's..... please give us'all a full report on the Pentagon as you use it !!

Cheers,

Carl
 
I once had a knife pulled on me while trying to buy my wife a kitten--I'd have loved to have flashed the Pentagon in that instance. Would have made the little twitch cry. ;)

Anyway, I'll definitely keep you posted if I run into anything interesting using it.

(For what it's worth, nothing became of the boy with the knife, mall security was just around the corner and I believe they took him in, after escorting him out, for drugs.)
 
"I once had a knife pulled on me while trying to buy my wife a kitten--I'd have loved to have flashed the Pentagon in that instance. Would have made the little twitch cry. "
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While I don't know the extent of the situation here please be carefull, as pulling a knife out in a situation like that could potentialy provoke someone like that
to attack you, When they really HAD no intention of harming you.
Never the less always be ready to defend yourself (or innocent bystanders)
in the case that someone really wants to kill,hurt,maim you or someone else
(use good discernment) :)
Remember life IS NOT A VIDEO GAME, but in the case tha someone does attack with the will to kill, I'll pray that you act swift and take the loser out!! ;)
 
They guy was high as a kight, with every intention of taking me down . . . for a kitten. I was carrying, but didn't reciprocate his brandishing. It was right in front of the checkout counter and security was just around the corner, so nothing happened. But, yes, I'm aware of a clear need to use discernment ;)
 
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