SOG Pentagon XR California Legal?

[Tomix]

Please excuse me if this is a dumb question.

I am interested in the SOG Pentagon XR as a possible new EDC folder. However, because I reside in California… I have a concern. The SOG Pentagon XR features a dagger tip. Blade HQ describes the blade shape with the following, “This knife has a dagger grind, with the top being mostly unsharpened. The quarter inch nearest the tip on the dull side is sharpened, making this knife pierce deeply and easily.” Would the grind of the knife cause legal trouble, even if it is a folder? California knife laws are pretty confusing. Thanks.

 

[Locutus D'Borg]

I live in Cali but I'm no lawyer. One problem is, like many states, there are state knife laws and local (city or county). I have ALL sorts of weird blade shapes but they are all 3" or less and all folders. I have 3 OTF autos, but the blades are 2" or less and thus Cali-legal. One OTF - MT Exocet, has a dagger blade.

I am old so it is highly unlikely that I would be searched, and even so, I feel I could explain my knives as being legal if it came up. But I'm no lawyer, so YMMV.

 

[Tomix]

I live in Cali but I'm no lawyer. One problem is, like many states, there are state knife laws and local (city or county). I have ALL sorts of weird blade shapes but they are all 3" or less and all folders. I have 3 OTF autos, but the blades are 2" or less and thus Cali-legal. One OTF - MT Exocet, has a dagger blade.

I am old so it is highly unlikely that I would be searched, and even so, I feel I could explain my knives as being legal if it came up. But I'm no lawyer, so YMMV.

Thank you for this response

 

[killgar]

The SOG Pentagon XR is perfectly legal in California. Under California state law it is legal to own, and legal to carry, both openly and concealed.

There is no law in California state law against owning or carrying a double-edged knife, or a knife with a dagger-style blade. In fact, there is no reference whatsoever in California state law regarding specifically to double-edged knives, or knives with two edges.

And although some cities/counties have blade length limits of openly carried knives, I cannot recall ever hearing or reading about any that have prohibitions on double-edged knives. You should research your local laws to be sure.

Although California law refers to "dirks" and "daggers", those are references to anything "capable of ready use as a stabbing weapon" (CA pc 16470), including a screwdriver, almost any fixed-blade, and any locking folder carried with the blade opened and locked. The terms "dirk" and "dagger" in California law do not refer specifically to double-edged knives.

However, a double-edged fixed-blade would be considered a "dirk" or "dagger" because just like any other fixed-blade it is "capable of ready use as a stabbing weapon", but a double-edged folding knife, carried closed, would not be considered a "dirk" or "dagger" under California law, because as long as it is carried closed it is not considered "capable of ready use as a stabbing weapon".

53 year resident of California here.

 

[Tomix]

The SOG Pentagon XR is perfectly legal in California. Under California state law it is legal to own, and legal to carry, both openly and concealed.

There is no law in California state law against owning or carrying a double-edged knife, or a knife with a dagger-style blade. In fact, there is no reference whatsoever in California state law regarding specifically to double-edged knives, or knives with two edges.

And although some cities/counties have blade length limits of openly carried knives, I cannot recall ever hearing or reading about any that have prohibitions on double-edged knives. You should research your local laws to be sure.

Although California law refers to "dirks" and "daggers", those are references to anything "capable of ready use as a stabbing weapon" (CA pc 16470), including a screwdriver, almost any fixed-blade, and any locking folder carried with the blade opened and locked. The terms "dirk" and "dagger" in California law do not refer specifically to double-edged knives.

However, a double-edged fixed-blade would be considered a "dirk" or "dagger" because just like any other fixed-blade it is "capable of ready use as a stabbing weapon", but a double-edged folding knife, carried folded, would not be considered a "dirk" or "dagger" under California law, because as long as it is carried closed it is not considered "capable of ready use as a stabbing weapon".

53 year resident of California here.

Thank you for this knowledge. Really appreciate it.