SOG SEAL knife question

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Hi everybody,
Question about the SOG SEAL pup and elite knives:
Would these knives be great for the outdoors? like for chopping wood etc.? i am lookiing for an outdoor do it all fixed blade knife, and I like the SEAL looks, but I dont know much about its performance. Is the AUS-8 steel tough and sharp? does anybody know any disadvantages and advantages about these knives? I also want a knive that has some combat capabilty, because i might take it to the army with me.
thanks in advance.
Danny
 
Hi Danny,

Well, Outdoors use:Look at this way
.240 blade stock.
Decent point-thickness
7 in. blade (can certainly chop, 9 is better for chopping)
Hollow-Flat Grind (Can always take an edge)
Combination edge
Aus-8A steel--Good combination of strength, toughness, edge-retention, etc.
(It is by no means equal to s30v, D2, etc, but it is MUCH more affordable, and
for the price of the higher-end steel, you can often get two of the lesser).
Rasped spine (multi-tasker)
Exposed tang (you can SEE for yourself the thickness) (Hammering, glass-breaking, etc)
A large, broad blade.
Handle material is fiber-glass reinforced and without any rivets (which loosen, and if you
find yourself with no means to tighten then, rivets are a problem)
Stainless with a hardcased TiNi coating
Cryo/Heat-Treat--excellent.

A blade of that size and weight, yes, I've chopped, battoned, shaved wood more than effectively with a seven in. blade (one smaller, and less well-made than the Seal Team),
infact, I came to prefer it over a handax or ax. (the knife I used was also lighter, especially in the blade). The Seal-Team, as far as my experience goes, should make an excellent all-around knife (survival included, especially). Infact, Danny, I've chopped and battoned with 3, 4, and 5 in. blades (7 to 9 in. is best) effectively.

Military-use

To be completely honest, Danny, I've known several soldiers in my life-time, and not one has ever had a CQB (Close-Quarter-Battle). In military life, I was told, all they had ever
needed a knife for was cutting ropes, cords, opening MRE's, cleaning out dust or sand or mud. Also, as simple as it might seem to use a knife in such a fashion, it is not. I've trained in MMA for four years now, and I still find my hands, knees, elbows, forearms, and feet are more useful than a knife. Now, the Sog Seal Team Elite (and Pup Elite, AND
the Tigershark Elite) in my own humble opinion, Danny, are all excellent, well-made knives. They are tough, built for tough use, possibly overbuilt (lol) (which is a good thing), as far as SERE, utility, combat-chores--oh, yes, they would probably meet your needs and then some. (Now, if you feel the need for a back-up defense, I'd not recommend a knife. If the military offers a martial-arts-program, Danny, THAT is a good,
reliable back-up. A man cannot be disarmed of his skills.)

Survival Situations:

In all honesty, Danny, the 'best' knife in a survival-situation is the knife you HAVE WITH YOU at that time. (I became lost once, all I had was a buck 110 folding-hunter, and my
clothes. The knife got me through it.) Now, the Seal Team Elite ( and the other Seals) are obviously made for outdoors and survival-type use. That rasped-spine--notching, good for making a bow-drill notch, possibly getting pinewood dust. The blade, as I see it, has three to four cutting surfaces--you have a straight whittling edge, an incising edge, and a chopping edge. You also (serrations) have a slashing, shearing edge. The point of the knife could be used (I'd presume, won't test it) for drilling holes, poking holes
(eggs, for instance). That extended, exposed tang--hammer, prying, glass-breaking (I've
managed to knap glass with the knife I've written here about. I won't identify the knife),
possibly glass or flint-knapping, cracking (possibly coconuts, egg shells, bones for marrow).

Sheath:

A knife's sheath should be AS well-made as the knife itself. A sheath should be useful for more than just housing the blade. The sheaths that come with the Seal series, especially
the nylon (which come with both a protective insert, and an external pocket) which is also molle-compatible. (The tigershark has a different sheath, but you could likely have one custom-made). The nylon sheath would be your best bet--silent, utility, multi-purpose, has a pocket which you can carry a multi or other goodies inside.

Well, Danny, I hope my post has helped you. But keep in mind, Danny, an untested-knife is just that, if you get a knife to take with you in your military-service, I'd give it a little light testing first. If you change your mind about the Sog Seal series, have a look at the Beckers--Bk 2, 7, 9, and 11. If you are looking for a good multi-tool, Sog makes those too. If you are looking for a good, heavy-use field folding-knife, look at the Ka-bar Mule.
Good luck, stay safe, stay frosty, and I hope you choose a good knife--always research before you buy.

Dark Seraphane
 
i'm just stating my preference here for having a fixed blade WITHOUT any serrations ANYWHERE along it's main edge.
so that generally leaves out half serrated blades...
because someone one fine day, has to get down to sharpen the blade's edge
and those serrations (useful as they are) just plain get's in the way of this.
other than that, you could say that all sog seals do come fit for military service!
 
Serrations are a pain in the rump to sharpen. (Nasty if ya slip while working on them too..) I thought Sog made a Non-Serrated Seal Pup? I think I saw a picture of one here on the forums somewhere. Very nice little knife. The Sog Creed and Super Bowies don't have serrations--or the Tech Bowie either..I think. I don't think the Field Pup has serrations. (Ever tried to sharpen a half-serrated knife in a pull-through sharpener? lol..)
 
oh, and btw.
serrations require a sharpening rod (either ceramic or diamond coated and what have you's) for touching up it's edge.
g'wad! that's workin' on one serration at a time,
if you don't have the correct serrated sharpening set with two or more paired set teeth for the job!
that's is something everyone is gonna have to think about,
especially when the serrated knife is expected to be hard used in the field over an extended period of time miles from no where...
 
If you do go into the military, Danny, I'd recommend a serrated-knife, even if it's a folding-model. You'll likely have to cut a rope or three.
 
I have a Seal Pup (the basic model, not the elite) It is a pretty good all-around knife, I have taken it with me on weekend hikes without any problems. It is a jack-of-all-trades. I think the one I have is AUS6, which is still good enough for most bushy tasks. The serrated edge makes quick work of rope to be sure, although I am of the same opinion as many here, and don't like serrated blades. Just my opinion.

All in all, it is a good knife. Just to give you options, another good choice would be the classic Ka-bar.
 
Well I bought the SEAL Team Elite, and I love it! I really like the serrated edges too, i don't know why many people dislike them. The SEAL team Elite is great for chopping too, I didn't had any trouble with a small/medium sized log. Thanks for all your advice everybody.
 
People dislike the serrated edges, Danny, because they are irritating & difficult to sharpen. (Also, if a hand slides down a serrated edge....time for stitches.) They also dislike them because it's requires a specialized tool to hone them--tapered rods.
 
I used an original SOG Tomcat model during my military duty. It went with me everywhere and performed any task that I asked of it. During Desert Shield/Desert Storm, I also carried a Gerber BMF 7 inch (non saw back) and a Victorinox Swiss Champ. I used the Tomcat and the Swiss Champ every day while in country. The Gerber got sharpened every day until it could split a hair in half but, I never used it in the field. There are just no trees in the desert and the other two were up for any cutting task at hand. I sold the Gerber to a French Foreign Legionnaire who was in dire need of a bayonet. If I took both the Seal Pup Elite and Seal Team Elite to the same environment, the Pup would get daily duty with any task at hand. The Team would stay on the rucksack until needed.
 
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