Solingen info?

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Hi,I have quite a few blades made with Solingen Stainless(mostly Boker).Does anyone know anything about this steel?I already know that Solingen is a city in Germany where it's made.That's about it.For instance..Rockwell Hardness,carbon content,chromium content...etc.What would be the comparison of Solingen to say..440C or 420A?Thanks in advance to any info provided.:)
 
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's Krupp 4116 steel. Holds up about the same as Bucks' 420 HC, in my experience.
 
Solingen is a geographical location, well known in Germany and Europe for good quality swords, knifes, razors.... but is not a steel. And if is no particular steel on the blade ( like 440C, 154 CM, S 60, X 15 TN etc ) it could be a steel like 420J .
 
I don't know for sure, but it has been my impression that the 'Solingen' label is kind of like 'surgical steel' that used to be a popular label w/ cheap Asian-made knives. In other words, just a meaningless marketing term. I would shy away from any knife with a blade made of 'mystery metal.'

That said, I did buy a Kellam knife with the designation of 'SPT' (scientifically precision treated) steel, and it is a quality piece.
 
Solingen refers to the knife capital in Germany. It is like saying "made in Italy" on a switchblade. It refers to the location the knife was made in and says nothing really to its steel or quailty. It was assumed by buyers that most knives marked this way were of high quailty,but most that do not indicate the name of the maker are NOT that good of a knife....
 
:thumbup:Thanks for the info everone.The few knives I have of these just say "Solingen Stainless" or "Solingen Germany",with no metal type stamp like 440 or 420.So I guess I'd be safe to assume they're 420(crap).Glad I didn't spend a lot on them.
 
JTR357 said:
:thumbup:Thanks for the info everone. The few knives I have of these just say "Solingen Stainless" or "Solingen Germany", with no metal type stamp like 440 or 420. So I guess I'd be safe to assume they're 420(crap). Glad I didn't spend a lot on them.
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I have several knives made from 420HC and their blade performance is far-removed from that which comes out of the south end of anything...

Ray :)
 
There is a large number of companies manufacturing knives in the area of Solingen, i e: Böker, Linder, Herbertz, Klaas, Puma, Hubertus, Loewen Messer, Hartkopf, Mercator, Dovo, Burgvogel, Güde, Solicut, Henckel/Zwilling, Rör, Eicker, Wüsthof/Dreizack, Olbertz, Herder, Fauna and more.

The main supplier of steel to these companies is Thyssen/Krupp AG. The steel of choice for most of these companies will be found in the range of Werkstoff No 1.4110 through 1.4116, roughly equivalent to AISI 440A.

~Paul~
 
Keep in mind that each batch of steel produced can be modified considerably from the last by adding different alloying materials so making a generalization based on geographic location is ludicrous.

George
 
There are VERY FEW present day knives that come from old Germany companies that are still made in Germany. Boker, Linder, Klass (Kissing Crane), and many other have knives made off shore for them ( China, Italy, Spain). I bought a Kissing Crane sod buster from SMKW that has the normal KK logo and Germany on it nad then in small letters it says Italy on the back of the blade.....lol. I have also had bought over runs of lock backs straight from the factory in Italy and had knives sent to me with Kissing Krane, Klass, and other German logos stamped on the blades....
 
reholli said:
I have several knives made from 420HC and their blade performance is far-removed from that which comes out of the south end of anything...

Ray :)
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No offence intended.I was refering to the mass produced Chinese & Taiwanise(spelling?) 420 junk out there.
 
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There is a large number of companies manufacturing knives in the area of Solingen, i e: Böker, Linder, Herbertz, Klaas, Puma, Hubertus, Loewen Messer, Hartkopf, Mercator, Dovo, Burgvogel, Güde, Solicut, Henckel/Zwilling, Rör, Eicker, Wüsthof/Dreizack, Olbertz, Herder, Fauna and more.

The main supplier of steel to these companies is Thyssen/Krupp AG. The steel of choice for most of these companies will be found in the range of Werkstoff No 1.4110 through 1.4116, roughly equivalent to AISI 440A.

~Paul~
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:thumbup:Thank You depaul,That's exactly the info I was looking for.:)
 
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