Some context for the Karda thread

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BlackKnight86

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My apologies for re-bumping this topic; but I felt it was important to provide one further example. This is not intended to be a complaint; I have no problem taking heat here. But a complaint was registered against Karda; and in fairness to him I just wanted to point one further thing out.

I was doing some research on the issue, out of curiosity, and I stumbled upon the Sig Lines thread in the Cove. A quote of mine was cited by my username. No worries; again, I don't have an issue with a little heat; and the poster who did it certainly owes me a few zingers. However, since my name was in the thread, I felt it would be no problem posting in response to someone else who commented. That got a response by someone who was obviously trying to head off a potential battle. Again, no worries...they were good-natured; and I was only there to fire back a little, in order make a point, which I did.

The problem came in with a response by someone else, which led to this thread. That person obviously missed the point, and felt the need to reiterate what some other regulars often do. And that is my point to this post: the Cove, and W&C are not always used a place for people to blow off steam. They are used in some cases as a place where people can drag others into a place where they may/may not want to go. But then, if the others show up and join the fray, all of sudden it becomes a problem.

I will reiterate that I do not know the specifics of some of the conflict. Having said that, I will also reiterate that, in my experience, Karda seems to be the type of mod who recognizes that the behavior that I just described could cause the very trouble that the folks who started the Karda thread were crying about. Frankly, I applaud him trying to "reset" such behavior.

This is just my observation, which is worth what you paid for it. I'll say again that I think some (absolutely not all, not even most) of the folks who frequent the Cove and W&C think that their longevity there (and I guess, their self-declared status as "alpha males") [snort!] grants them some kind of special status as being above/outside the rules. And while it is easy to say, just don't go there; what happens if one is brought there? Just something to consider while the matter is being looked into.

Thank you for your time. Again, I apologize for re-raising this; but in fairness to Karda and to the situation, I thought it would be another data point.

Respectfully,

Mike
 
How would you "bring" someone to W&C or the Cove?

I only ask because I have never gone into a forum or subforum that I did not intend to enter.
 
Exactly. If you get "dragged" into a forum, it's because you chose to go there.
 
Sand is a terrible thing to waste. Perhaps more members should consider the PG membership level which was created specifically for people with "sensitivities"?
 
How would you "bring" someone to W&C or the Cove?

I only ask because I have never gone into a forum or subforum that I did not intend to enter.

Exactly. If you get "dragged" into a forum, it's because you chose to go there.

Anyone whos been around long enough knows this old Whine & Cheese and Cove custom of "Baiting".
Anyone deemed unworthy, stupid, troll....etc is cajoled, berated, dared...etc to post there and if they do they are set upon and treated to a gang fest of abusive behavior schoolyard bully style.

Sand is a terrible thing to waste. Perhaps more members should consider the PG membership level which was created specifically for people with "sensitivities"?

Perhaps this snide, insulting commentary is better suited to the Cove?
Please Stop.
 
Why do I feel compelled?

Anyone whos been around long enough knows this old Cove custom of "Baiting".
Anyone deemed unworthy, stupid, troll....etc is cajoled, berated, dared...etc to post there and if they do they are set upon and treated to a gang fest of abusive behavior schoolyard bully style.
Perhaps this snide, insulting commentary is better suited to the Cove?
Please Stop.

Get The Cove out of your mind for a minute and look at the posting history of the person you're defending. For him to cry foul over people being mean to him, and you to shine up your armor to scold his adversaries, is the most hypocritical thing to come out of this mess yet. The fact that he spews his vitriol in the PA instead of where it's actually permitted seems to be the defining point.

I have the OP on ignore. We all know how trollish some of the PA members can be and the OP is the only person in that forum I've felt compelled to ignore and the only person on this entire site I've felt compelled to ignore specifically because of his baiting. If it's reached the point that the members in The Cove have to placate the likes of this guy, then it's a sad day.

For you to scold one of the most respected members of that section while defending it's biggest troll is absolutely absurd.
 
Snip...

Perhaps this snide, insulting commentary is better suited to the Cove?
Please Stop.
My comment was not intended to be snide or insulting. It was an honest suggestion as the PG membership level was created for just this reason. As I said, sensitive members might consider it.
 
I think Rob thought your post was cute.

There was no heat involved at all in quoting your "horse poo" quote.

Nobody brought you into the cove , you were "researching" by searching for your username and saw that thread pop up in the list.

As long as you wanted context.....

best

mqqn
 
Anyone whos been around long enough knows this old Whine & Cheese and Cove custom of "Baiting".
Anyone deemed unworthy, stupid, troll....etc is cajoled, berated, dared...etc to post there and if they do they are set upon and treated to a gang fest of abusive behavior schoolyard bully style.
Yet they still enter by choice, no?
And if they respond, engage, or stoop is that not also their choice?

If one chooses not to heed a warning sign on the door and does not like or is insulted by what they see, who is to blame?
 
Why do I feel compelled?



Get The Cove out of your mind for a minute and look at the posting history of the person you're defending. For him to cry foul over people being mean to him, and you to shine up your armor to scold his adversaries, is the most hypocritical thing to come out of this mess yet. The fact that he spews his vitriol in the PA instead of where it's actually permitted seems to be the defining point.

I have the OP on ignore. We all know how trollish some of the PA members can be and the OP is the only person in that forum I've felt compelled to ignore and the only person on this entire site I've felt compelled to ignore specifically because of his baiting. If it's reached the point that the members in The Cove have to placate the likes of this guy, then it's a sad day.

For you to scold one of the most respected members of that section while defending it's biggest troll is absolutely absurd.

I was defending no one.
The "baiting" practice is a known fact. I answered a question in context.
This respected members commentary was neither constructive or necessary.
Thanks for the scolding.
 
If you don't want to be initiated, don't join the fraternity, sorority, biker group, or street gang. If you don't want to hear about god, don't go to a Christian church.

Anyone whos been around long enough knows this old Whine & Cheese and Cove custom of "Baiting".
Anyone deemed unworthy, stupid, troll....etc is cajoled, berated, dared...etc to post there and if they do they are set upon and treated to a gang fest of abusive behavior schoolyard bully style.



Perhaps this snide, insulting commentary is better suited to the Cove?
Please Stop.
 
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The other thread was not intended to bash a community on BFC.

It was intended to bring to light the unreasonable actions and behaviors of a Moderator on this site.
 
The other thread was not intended to bash a community on BFC.

It was intended to bring to light the unreasonable actions and behaviors of a Moderator on this site.

And this thread appears to be intended to bring to light some unreasonable actions and behaviors of that community.
 
Oh, for Pete's sake's. The Quote Thread in the Cove has been sailing along smoothly for nearly three years. It was started for one reason and one reason only: "I really enjoy some of the witty repartee' from our friends that sums up a true thought, briefly. Let's share our favorites here."

As I recall, I closed it briefly once in all that time because people were getting snotty with each other, to let everyone cool down. I think it stayed closed a whole day, maybe two. If one has to go to there of all places to find something to complain about, they're really grasping at straws.
 
And this thread appears to be intended to bring to light some unreasonable actions and behaviors of that community.

Just a suggestion, maybe you should go see what the OP is complaining about. For the record I am the supposed instigator as far as I can tell. After reading it and you still feel he has a valid point than feel free to continue to defend him.
 
Just a suggestion, maybe you should go see what the OP is complaining about. For the record I am the supposed instigator as far as I can tell. After reading it and you still feel he has a valid point than feel free to continue to defend him.

Again, I am defending no one. Heres a suggestion. Discuss the topic, please.
 
Anyone deemed unworthy, stupid, troll....etc is cajoled, berated, dared...etc to post there and if they do they are set upon and treated to a gang fest of abusive behavior schoolyard bully style.
I think your quote describes you. You are a bully.

I will miss Gus and Elliot. They both are gentlemen and did an excellent job moderating.

Chuck
 
Again, I am defending no one. Heres a suggestion. Discuss the topic, please.

He did. You choose to not comprehend. This thread is about context and he is suggesting that you would benefit by understanding it better.

And this thread appears to be intended to bring to light some unreasonable actions and behaviors of that community.

And it appears that you are passing judgment on an entire community without the benefit of seeing the context. And have no interest in doing so because this OP, on it's face, seems to support your personal prejudices. A judge in a civil court would be asked to recuse himself at this point. So would an obviously prejudiced moderator.
 
You Cove guys are absolute gold mines of material. It's almost embarrassing how easy it is.....because you simply are unable to not have the last word.

The only people complaining are you. I have nothing against Rob's comment....all literate people will see that I never actually addressed him in that thread. Instead, I was addressing another, uh, "alpha male"....but we'll get to that in a second. Point is - and I've already said this...and it went right over your heads.....and I expect it'll do so again - there is no anger or distress here. I am proving a point; and thanks to your complete lack of self control, I don't have to do any work to do so.

Rob can say whatever he wants to me, wherever he wants. Unlike some others, he doesn't have a porcelain spine, so I don't go beyond the usual back and forth banter. I treat him like an adult, assuming that if he dishes it out he can take it. He's a good man...I'm sure I get on his nerves; but I'm also sure that he doesn't spend any time in angst over it.

But some of the rest of you need a serious perspective transplant. Let's see....you have someone who puts so much effort into making sure that I and everyone else knows that he's ignoring me....and yet can't stop posting an automatic message containing my username! Did you guys skip the English lesson that covered what "ignoring" means? Again...embarrassingly easy.

You have others for whom every contrary post is automatically combative. "ZOMG, Dude....RELAX!" LOL....the only people who need to relax are those who think that everything must be a defensive reaction (I assume to their "alpha-ness"....). Butt out. I can take care of myself. So can everyone else. Go add to your porn collection and mind your own business.

And then there's your apparent inability to understand anything that goes beyond the absolute literal. First of all, being "dragged in" to something is not limited to the purely physical. Undoubtedly, everyone (well, those who are literate) is aware of the expression "don't drag me into it"....nothing to do with physically causing anything. Regardless of the name it goes by - "bait" is also an illustration of the concept (again...for the literate) - your attempts to feign innocence are pathetic quibbling, which brings me to my next point:

English....learn it. Words have definitions, and they are generally established at higher levels than the W&C sub forum. The way you butcher the word "troll" to basically mean any behavior or any person of whom you don't approve has rendered it meaningless.

And speaking of English, a little reading comprehension would be good for you, LOL, "alphas". Re-read Karda's post. How is he "defending" me when he never mentions me at all? Instead, he is demonstrably addressing specific behavior that he has addressed before. Read Kiah's post. I'm W&C's "biggest troll"? Because I go there so often, right? Do you..."alphas".... not understand that we all can read what was really said and done; so we know when you're "adjusting" the truth?

LOL...."not for the faint of heart". Uh, huh.....
 
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