Some help with the screws

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Well it's me again and my Tenacious. That thing and I obviously have a love hate relationship going on. I love to use it, it loves to work, I hate to clean it and it hates me for cleaning it.

Anyway I got a pile of junk in it the other day so i went to take it apart and clean it since it never did really get a proper cleaning in the first place. And as i was down on the last 2 screws I noticed one thing - the got stripped. I stripped them, no one else could have, but I don't get how when I removed all others without any problems.
I thought about sending the knife to Spyderco, but the shipping comes to a total that it could cover a new Persistance. Being unemployed that is a bit of a problem.

So do you guys have any ideas on what to do?
 
question? are you using allen (hex) wrenches or torx bits? I ask because there is some debate over which one to use. "I" use torx and for the scale screws, I use #6. If you are using #6 and it doesn't grip, "I" go to a #7 and tap/seat it in the screw head with a hammer. I also try to stay as squared to the screw as i can. hope this helps.


*it always seems to be the last screw doesn't it?;)
 
I have read that on the Tenacious the screws look like a hex but are a Torx so as mentioned make sure you are using the right bit. The only problem I see with using the next size up and tapping in place is that the bit may not get seated good and try to twist out which can also strip a screw. I have used a lot of folders over the years and have never had to take one apart for cleaning. Hot soapy water, running water, Q tips, and tooth picks have got all my folders squeaky clean so far. Shake the knife out as best as you can when done and the heat from the water helps it dry out. In a couple hours apply your favorite lube sparingly to the pivot but sometimes I use no lube if the knife is broke in good and smooth. If you are overly worried about the water causing corrosion then spray the knife down with WD40 when it is still wet and then give it a day to evaporate some. The WD stands for water displacer and drives the water out while providing a light mineral oil to keep things from rusting. It is not a good lubricant so apply something else if you use it.

As far as what to do now you can put it back together and not try to take it apart anymore, try to buy some screws from online or a local fastener store, or if you are not in the US there is a small chance Spyderco will send out some new ones if they have them available since shipping can be cost prohibitive. Spyderco doesn't keep lots of parts on hand because they have knives made all over the world and have so many models it would be hard to have parts for everything so that will be hit or miss. Good luck.
 
^Ah, I did forget the wisest advice,.... Clean with out taking apart!:thumbup: Thanks FlaMtnBkr
 
there is something with spy screws that i always strip out,they seem to have a dome shape in the bottom of the screws to keep the bit from seating deep...
 
THE PUNISHER said:
there is something with spy screws that i always strip out,they seem to have a dome shape in the bottom of the screws to keep the bit from seating deep...
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Yeah. I was going to force a patina on my m4 mili, but upon inspection I noticed that a few of the scale screws were cammed-out and that's how it was from the factory. So, I haven't taken it apart yet until I confirm that Spyderco can tap them if need be. I just think those screws are too small and soft to be at all forgiving. Not complaining, just my two cents.
 
You might want to send Spyderco an email and ask if replacement screws are available, and what they would cost. No guarantee, but they might just ask for your name and address and send you some. I'd suggest not using the "Contact Us" form on the Spyderco website, messages sent that way seem to get routed to a black hole.

Paul
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Over lube, over cleaning. A source of many problems. Just wash it out with warm/hot soapy water, rinse and blow out moisture. BE sure to have the right tool for the job.
 
Thx guys. I'll ask Spyderco about the screws to see about teh replacements.
As for what i used - i used a Hex bit. Tried it with a Torx and the screws weren't going anywhere so I tried Hex and it fitted perfectly. Plus these 2 are the only ones that are stripped out
 
The screw on mine are metric hex, all of them. The only exception in the line(Persistence, Tenacious, Resilience) has been the clip on my Resilience, that is a 1/16th hex
 
Just a quick update.
4 days ago I sent a mail to Spyderco explaining what happened.
Today I got a mail from the customer support that explained that I did indeed void the warranty on the knife by taking it apart. But they still asked for my shipping address, and will do their best to supply me with new screws. The person I talked to was Teri, so here is my big thx to you too. If you're ever around you got a beer with your name on it.

This is just solid, black on white proof how Spyderco does things. I was a fan for life way before this happened, but this is sure to turn a few ppl around in my midst.
 
I am making wood scales for my Tenacious and stripped one screw badly and another not as badly and emailed Spyderco Customer Service. Teri emailed me back last week and said that they were out of the Tenacious scale screws and some were on order and to check back after the New Year. I hope we are able to get some new screws soon!
 
Yea, it was explained that the screws were fairly uncommon since the knife is made in China. But it's still one heck of a deal for them to help one out even though there is no obligation since we did void the warranty
 
Oh I know I voided the warranty. My local Ace Hardware has screws down to M1.5's but they are button slot head instead of torx socket head. I can't decide if the slot heads would look as good in the wood or not. I think they are M2.5-.5 size. I don't expect Spyderco to send me the screws for free, I plan on paying them for the screws if and when they get more in. I've had great help from Spyderco's CS more than once.
 
Nabobz,

check out Olanders They seem to have just about any kind of fastener you might need.

I put wood (bamboo from some flooring) on my Tenacious. I don't remember what sizes I used, but they were metric. I'll see if I can figure it out. The factory scales seemed a little too thin for that size knife.

With the wood scales, the knife makes much louder click when it is opened:D.

Ric
 
Phydeaux,
Your bamboo scales sound great. Got any pictures? I agree the G-10 is too thin. I'm pretty sure the factory screws are M2.5-.45 X 6mm long. I need the same in about 8 mm long with a torx or hex head.
Thanks, I'll check out Olander's.
 
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