some Lansky questions

[idanmaman]

helo , i just ordered a spyderco military and i was wondering if the regular lansky deluxe 5 stones kit will be enough to sharpen it ( extra coarse , coarse , med, fine , ex fine) since it is S30v.
another question is when i use a 20 degree on lansky , is it 10 + 10 on each side ? or 20 on each side which is making 40 degrees on each side ?

thanks idan!

 

[Obsessed with Edges]

helo , i just ordered a spyderco military and i was wondering if the regular lansky deluxe 5 stones kit will be enough to sharpen it ( extra coarse , coarse , med, fine , ex fine) since it is S30v.
another question is when i use a 20 degree on lansky , is it 10 + 10 on each side ? or 20 on each side which is making 40 degrees on each side ?

thanks idan!

For S30V, get the diamond kit. The hones are relatively small in the Lansky kit, and you'll save a LOT of time using the diamond for any significant metal removal. That, and the diamond hones won't dish or lose their flatness. The 'standard' hones in the Deluxe kit will dish out with heavy use. I say this, based upon my experience reprofiling a ZT-0350 in S30V, using a Deluxe kit, supplemented by only one medium diamond hone. I got the job done, but wore out the standard extra-coarse and coarse hones in the process, and even shortened the life of the medium diamond hone (which was already somewhat worn when I started).

The angles marked on the Lansky clamp are intended to be 'per side' numbers. So, the '20' slot would imply a 40 degree inclusive. Having said that, bear in mind that the angles marked on the clamp will only be accurate if your knife matches the 'hypothetical' blade profile used to design the clamp. If your blade is wider (spine to edge), the actual result will be more acute (lower angle), and if your blade is narrower, the result will likely be more obtuse (higher angle). Other factors, like the actual positioning of the blade in the clamp, will also alter the 'real' result.

Good luck. :thumbup:

 

[idanmaman]

thanks a lot for the information , i could not ask for anything better than that , very helpful.
as for what u said , i also got the lansky double sided diamond fine/med sharpener and also got a DC3 fallkniven , should i combine them with the lansky kit while sharpening the military?
idan

 

[Obsessed with Edges]

thanks a lot for the information , i could not ask for anything better than that , very helpful.
as for what u said , i also got the lansky double sided diamond fine/med sharpener and also got a DC3 fallkniven , should i combine them with the lansky kit while sharpening the military?
idan

Sounds like you're pretty well set. For free-hand touch-ups, after re-bevelling with the Lansky kit, I think you'll do just fine with your double-sided hone (similar to DMT Dia-Fold, I assume?) and your DC3. You don't HAVE to combine them with your Lansky kit, but they'll make great alternatives for free-hand & field touch-ups.

For what it's worth, the Lansky guided sharpener (and any guided sharpener, for that matter) are best suited for rebevelling/reprofiling. That's how I've been using mine. Any maintenance that I've done beyond that, I've done with free-hand hones and/or stropping.

I've been using DMT Dia-Folds, and I also have a Fallkniven DC4. They work great.

 

[Keyman]

Once again I find myself posting after Obsessed with Edges and as always he is spot on on the advise. :thumbup:
I too use the Lansky system and find that the best thing I did for my kit was to upgrade to the diamond stones. I have the coarse and med diamonds only. I use the standard kit's fine stones to get the final polish on the edge.

 

[A.P.F.]

helo , i just ordered a spyderco military and i was wondering if the regular lansky deluxe 5 stones kit will be enough to sharpen it ( extra coarse , coarse , med, fine , ex fine) since it is S30v.
another question is when i use a 20 degree on lansky , is it 10 + 10 on each side ? or 20 on each side which is making 40 degrees on each side ?

thanks idan!

Dave has offered some valuable information. FWIW, I have used the Lansky Deluxe kit (no diamonds) to put a polished edge on my S90V Military, S30V Ritter Grip and an M390 Benchmade 710. Personally, I find diamonds too aggressive, but that is just me.

 

[res1cue]

Dave has offered some valuable information. FWIW, I have used the Lansky Deluxe kit (no diamonds) to put a polished edge on my S90V Military, S30V Ritter Grip and an M390 Benchmade 710. Personally, I find diamonds too aggressive, but that is just me.

APF is spot on.

Extra coarse diamond is great for quick steel removal, but other than that, I use normal stones.. the ultrafine is really great, but the sapphire.. I don't see a real use for that

 

[Obsessed with Edges]

The finishing stones (med, fine, EF) from the standard Lansky kit are fine, once any heavy metal removal has been done. In particular, the two finishing ceramics (Fine & EF) are quite excellent. Even with the diamond kit, I'd still finish with those.

I advised getting the diamond kit, due to the fact that I had to remove a LOT of metal from my ZT-0350, to get it to a more acute bevel. As I pointed out, my XC and Coarse hones from the standard kit were no longer flat after the job was done. I really wanted for a diamond kit, about 2/3 of the way into that project. Hence, my recommendation reflects my belief that the diamond kit will not present any such issues, no matter the steel or how much metal has to be removed. For someone considering buying their first Lansky kit, I'd always recommend the diamond first. The ceramic finishing hones can always be added later, if desired.