Some love for Kershaw's made in China models

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Let me say first, I own a manufacturing business. I am proud to call myself American. Because of that, I make sure that 100% of every product I manufacture is made in the USA, down to the nuts, bolts, and raw materials. I don't make as much money as I could if I were to outsource some production, or at least some purchasing of materials.

That said, it's absolutely possible to make products in the USA, and still be successful. Look at companies like New Balance, and Wright tool. The problem is, not all customers are willing or able to pay the money for an American made product.

In the event that a consumer must buy an import, I prefer that they buy it from a company that also offers employment to American wokers, such as Kershaw. I'm now on my second China-made Kershaw (first the Chill, and now the Clash), and I must say, I'm absolutely impressed with the value, fit, and finish of these knives. I paid around $20 for each, and they easily match $100 knives in quality.

In fact, I have seen some fairly prolific $100 USA made knives that aren't able to match the Kershaw imports in quality. That is very impressive. I am a machinist by profession, and it truly takes a LOT to impress me when it comes to manufacturing quality. Even more delightful is the fact that the materials are every bit as excellent as the manufacturing quality. The 8cr13mov value steel they're using is VERY good for a cheaper steel, and it seems that the Chinese manufacturer really has its heat treatment under control. They hold an edge extremely well (the best of any value knife I've ever owned), and sharpen easily... the two best possible traits for a value user.

All I can say to Kershaw, is KEEP IT UP! Also, ThomasW, please kick whoever's ass you need to kick to get the Piston and Tremor in my hot little hands A-S-A-P.


Since it is fitting to this thread, I figure it's a good idea to repost the pictures from my Kershaw Chill review, so you can see what $20 buys you, when dealing with a company like Kershaw (I'll try and get some nice pics like these of the Clash when I have time):

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I haven't been that impressed with the Chinese Kershaws I've handled. The American-made ones, however, are very nice for the price. Plus they have the full warranty.
 
I haven't been that impressed with the Chinese Kershaws I've handled. The American-made ones, however, are very nice for the price. Plus they have the full warranty.

The blade grind quality and fit/finish of this Chill pictured, equals (and possibly surpasses) the quality of USA Kershaws I've owned. I've gotten a USA made Kershaw that I was less than impressed with for the price, TBH, after having seen what kind of quality I can get in the $20 Chinese counterpart.

I have a sneaking suspicion that if you had never seen this knife before, and were not familiar with the model or its origins, it could be laser engraved with "USA" instead of "China", and you would be none the wiser.

You can't get any better than perfect production quality, and that is what the above pictured knife is close to reaching.

I'm just being honest here. I eat, sleep, and breathe precision. It's what I do. I am confident in saying that the production quality of the knife shown above is on par with just about ANY knife I've seen.


edit: Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I'm not trying to crap on yours, but I have a really hard time imagining how the quality of the above knife could possibly improve, only by moving to a factory in a different geographical location.

I can say that my Chinese Kershaw Chill is absolutely, 100% equal in quality to my USA Kershaw Skyline, the only real difference being the blade steel used (frankly, I think the Chill actually holds an edge better). If someone would like to contest this, that is perfectly acceptable, but I would love for specific reasons to be posted why they think the Chinese models are inferior in build quality. Pictures would be superb if possible. I've posted my pictures, and I think they demonstrate very clearly just how well made this knife is.

From what I've seen, they are equal. *I've only seen a few examples though.* It is entirely possible that earlier models were not of this high quality. Based upon my somewhat limited experience in the quality of the China models vs. the USA models I've seen though, I'd have to say anyone debating the quality is having trouble seeing past the COO.
 
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I agree with iandh. In the last couple of years, I have watched Chinese knife production go from 'meh' to 'Holy *$%&!' I recently picked up a 9Cr18Mo (think 440C) Byrd Ti Catbyrd and the quality is outstanding. In fact, any of the Byrd lineup are great knives. In short, I no longer shy away from Chinese knives, as they represent a good value, IMO.
 
Good thread, iandh: I couldn't agree more about the quality of Kershaw's China-made knives. One model I have to give special mention to is the Nerve, which might just be my favorite sub-$30 knife. Everything about that knife is just really well done: F&F, blade shape, thick liner lock, ergos, contoured G-10 handles, and 8Cr13MoV steel. IMHO, the Nerve deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as the Tenacious and RAT-1 in any discussion of best knives under $30.

My experience with the Nerve (as well as the Scamp, a nice larger framelock that can be found for <$20 shipped) has been so good that I was excited to see more China-made Kershaws when the 2011 catalog came out.

(Also, Tsujigiri, the China models carry the same lifetime warranty as all other Kershaws.)
 
Good thread, iandh: I couldn't agree more about the quality of Kershaw's China-made knives. One model I have to give special mention to is the Nerve, which might just be my favorite sub-$30 knife. Everything about that knife is just really well done: F&F, blade shape, thick liner lock, ergos, contoured G-10 handles, and 8Cr13MoV steel. IMHO, the Nerve deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as the Tenacious and RAT-1 in any discussion of best knives under $30.

My experience with the Nerve (as well as the Scamp, a nice larger framelock that can be found for <$20 shipped) has been so good that I was excited to see more China-made Kershaws when the 2011 catalog came out.

(Also, Tsujigiri, the China models carry the same lifetime warranty as all other Kershaws.)

The Nerve is a superb knife as well.

I also was really excited to see the new imports. As mentioned above, on the import side im anticipating the tremor, and on the domestic side, the piston.

One thing I can say... this thread in no way means that kershaw should discontinue usa production. I really hope the managment doesn't see the praise of their chinese line and get the idea they should move the whole line to china.

As far as I see it, the usa is a perfect place to keep manufacturing of their higher end knives.
 
One thing I can say... this thread in no way means that kershaw should discontinue usa production. I really hope the managment doesn't see the praise of their chinese line and get the idea they should move the whole line to china.

As far as I see it, the usa is a perfect place to keep manufacturing of their higher end knives.
Of course. I really couldn't see Kershaw's management interpreting the thread in that way.
 
I don't own any Kershaw's. I'm anxiously awaiting the Tremor and RJI 3.5" though. I am impressed with my Chinese Spydies.
 
I agree with iandh. In the last couple of years, I have watched Chinese knife production go from 'meh' to 'Holy *$%&!' I recently picked up a 9Cr18Mo (think 440C) Byrd Ti Catbyrd and the quality is outstanding. In fact, any of the Byrd lineup are great knives. In short, I no longer shy away from Chinese knives, as they represent a good value, IMO.

Is the Ti Catbyrd a LinerLock?
 
I have two Chinese-made Kershaws, the Chill and the OD-2, and I have been very pleased with them so far. Does anyone know what kind of coating Kershaw uses on these blades?
 
I have three USA-made Mini Cyclones, two of which came with off-centered blades, one worse than the other.

My two Half Tons, one of the cheapest of Kershaw's Chinese-made models, are just about perfect.......
 
Let me say first, I own a manufacturing business. I am proud to call myself American. Because of that, I make sure that 100% of every product I manufacture is made in the USA, down to the nuts, bolts, and raw materials. I don't make as much money as I could if I were to outsource some production, or at least some purchasing of materials.

IMHO any manufacturing in PRC is a competitor for US manufacturing companies. Nothing wrong with competition of cause. But, considering policies of the government of PRC in labor and environmental laws, competition is not really fair. Which make me wonder, why do you help them?

The problem is, not all customers are willing or able to pay the money for an American made product.

It is sad, but in today world, lowest price determine everything, may be not for everybody, but certainly for majority.
 
I have two Chinese-made Kershaws, the Chill and the OD-2, and I have been very pleased with them so far. Does anyone know what kind of coating Kershaw uses on these blades?
It's just a bead-blast finish, the same as most USA-made Kershaws.
 
After a few weeks with the Half Ton, I can safely say that it is one tough little SOB . I will be purchasing the One Ton. I will also submit that anyone who has an extra $20 and doesn't buy a Half Ton is cheating themselves. That said, Thomas, a wrench pocket clip? Really? Lol
 
I've handled quite a few of the chinese kershaw and they seem to be excellent values for the money IMO first the chinese did it with rough rider now they've progressed to more modernized designs my favorite import kershaw would have to be the chill I think the incredibly thin blade would lend it self useful in a variety of every day task.
 
After a few weeks with the Half Ton, I can safely say that it is one tough little SOB . I will be purchasing the One Ton. I will also submit that anyone who has an extra $20 and doesn't buy a Half Ton is cheating themselves. That said, Thomas, a wrench pocket clip? Really? Lol

It's part of the Snap-on look.

Also:

Chinese Kershaw's DO have Kershaw's lifetime warranty.

My favorite of Kershaw's imports has been the Nerve. :thumbup:

The main reason that Kershaw produces these models in China is to give the "$20 buyers" an option when they walk into their local sporting good's store to pick a Kershaw over a Gerber / Taylor cutlery / CRKT knife.

They are in no way "moving production to China."

Hopefully that clears some things up.
 
I can tell you that after two - three weeks of use at work, breaking down boxes and such, the blade hasn't even needed a touch up, and there is no horizontal or vertical blade play......




......and yes, the words 'lifetime warranty ' were clearly printed on the package.
 
IMHO any manufacturing in PRC is a competitor for US manufacturing companies. Nothing wrong with competition of cause. But, considering policies of the government of PRC in labor and environmental laws, competition is not really fair. Which make me wonder, why do you help them?



It is sad, but in today world, lowest price determine everything, may be not for everybody, but certainly for majority.

Wait, why do I help them? I compete directly against them with my products. I can defintely live with $40 a year of Chinese Kershaw purchases, when I'm stealing $100,000 a year or more in sales from Chinese companies with my US made products.
 
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