Some new blades for me

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I have some new knives from Valiant. The first one is a Lawi Ayam and the second is a Kuku Macan. They are the precursors to the karambit.

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Very nice, the first one (Lawi Ayam?) that is a deep etched design not damascus right? I’ve seen the company mentioned now and then, how was your experience dealing with them?

Todd
 
Absolutely beautiful, exquisite craftsmanship. However, please do not be offended by my unrefined tastes, but neither of them bear any resemblance to a knife that I'd actually carry and use. Are they primarily intended as personal defense weapons, or do they also serve more mundane applications in their country/culture of origin? I'm very well versed in the blades of western culture, from the bronze age on up, but when it comes to these eastern pieces, I must admit to a good deal of ignorance. :o

Sarge
 
Yes, the top one is just deeply etched, not damascus. I ordered from Bill Wray and everything was very smooth.

Sarge, they are not knives I would carry or use either(and the sheaths are very loose fitting, so the knives almost jump out by themselves), but they are very nice display knives. The knives were used as self defense knives in Malaysia and Indonesia. I'm not sure how practical they would be for mundane purposes. They did develop into the karambit though, at least, from information I was able to find on the web.

From http://www.kwsantiques.de/english/eframe.html
A small Malaysian slasher knife, or Lawi Ayam, for self defense. Preferably worn by women hidden in their hair. Steel blade with two edges, one has been sharpened in recent times.

From http://www.karambit.com/the_history.htm
Originally wielded in battle, the oversized Kuku Macan was a bit cumbersome to manipulate, so it was scaled down to smaller sizes, which augmented maneuverability. Much like the ancient European broadsword, which was eventually reduced from a two-handed heavy slashing weapon to a light single-handed thrusting weapon, various permutations of the Kuku Macan were developed based upon practical usage. As the saying goes, "Necessity is the mother of invention". Like the development of the Western dagger, the Kuku Macan blade design came in smaller sizes and eventually found itself in the smallest size - the very personalized Karambit.
 
Thanks Ted, I thought they had the look of a blade that'd be used primarily in a weapon role. Hold up just one minute, what's that bit about women toting them around concealed in their hair? Lord have mercy, a feller would have to mind his P's and Q's around them gals. I shudder to think of one particular cut those blades would be all too well suited for. . . .YIKES :eek: :rolleyes:

Sarge
 
Ted,
I have several Valiant blades and have eyed that lawi ayam for some time. If it's anything like their goloks I bet it could take a beating. The etch is nice and the handle looks like it will fit very snugly in your palm. Great buy.
DanR
 
Sylvrfalcn said:
Lord have mercy, a feller would have to mind his P's and Q's around them gals. I shudder to think of one particular cut those blades would be all too well suited for. . . .YIKES :eek: :rolleyes:

Sarge
Saaaarge... Puhleeeease...;)
 
Dang....I'm really liking that first one. Congrats! :thumbup:
 
Nice stuff Ted! I had 3 items on my Valiant list, and now it's 5. :D Thanks for sharing.

Norm
 
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