Some Sleeeezebay sellers are nuts....

lsheldon

lsheldon

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A friend here on the forum has been looking for a Ratweiler. I saw one on that auction site tonight that the seller listed as having Green Linen. It looks to me like it actually has Black Canvas Micarta. I emailed him to ask about it and tell him what I thought the handles were. I also sent him a link to one of Ken Lunde's knives with Green Linen so he could see what it looks like and the difference. I didn't phrase it to sound condescending or like I was accusing him of anything. I just stated I thought it was Canvas Micarta.

His response to me was that he had purchased it here from a knife maker (Walter Davis), and that he had been assured it was Green Linen. His last sentence is what really made my jaw drop. He said that likely Ken had photo shopped his knife to make the handles look greener.

Not sure who the seller actually is. But I wish I did know because then I could make sure to never buy a knife from him.

I can't seem to wrap my head around what some sellers there say and do. Kinda boggles the mind.....
 
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You mean this photo?

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The Ratweiler Chopper with the Olive Drab (aka, Green) blade indeed has Black Canvas Micarta handles.
 
Ahhh, the elusive Green Linen Ratweiler surfaces.:rolleyes:

A lot of characters on Ebay, but a lot of good people as well.
 
I suppose what doesn't help is that Black Canvas Micarta is somewhat green in color, depending on the specimen.
 
Correction, he said in his email it was Walter Davis who sold him the Ratweiler. I was so flabbergasted when he said that Ken probably Photo Shopped his pics to get the color that I totally missed it.
 
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Lots of miss information, and out right exaggerations. My favorites are huge run items that are suddenly super scarce. Only one like it (except the 30 on the exchange, and the thousand in the hands of other owners).

Even better are the real woppers. Made from a secret mix of steel, carved from the bones of a fallen star by virgin blacksmith. This blade actually came from the dark ages, where it killed tyrants like Genghis Khan , and was also the blade that killed Hitler (he was assassinated with this blade, but I had to replace the leather sheath with this kydex one).

There are many blades being sold as Busse, when they are Kin, and also sold as Infi when not.
 
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Does anyone know if a Ratweiler was ever made with Green Linen handles? Now that I think about this, I seem to recall seeing one with Green Linen handles somewhere here on the forums. If i'm remembering the correct knife, it was immediately obvious it was Green Linen and the handles were incredible. I could be remembering a Chopweiler or another SRKW version that was similiarly shaped. I'm no expert on the SRKW models.

Green Linen is by far my favorite handle material. Right now I only own one Busse with it. I would love to own more.
 
IIRC... there were either 7 or 11 Ratweilers made that were OD green coat with green linen scales. At least I'm pretty sure they were green linen.

Maybe try and reach out to Paddling_man here on the forums... I know he used to own one of them.

I have never heard of any green linen Chopweilers though. The pics in this thread are of the Chopweiler, not the Ratweiler.

Hope this helps.


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Just looked at it... it does look like those 1 of 11's,
but it also looks like its canvas and not linen... too much grain in that pattern for it to be linen IMHO.

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Definitely black canvas! Look at the thickness of the fiber material. Linen is a much finer fiber. By the way, I wonder who that Ratweiler seeking gentleman is...

;)
 
In the person's defense, the white balance in my photo below is off, and there is a bit too much yellowish hue:

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Here are better examples of Green Linen Micarta:

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As I stated before, Black Canvas Micarta often looks somewhat green, and Green Linen Micarta sometimes doesn't look green enough. Oiling the handles can help to bring out, or suppress, the green color, depending on the handle material and the character of the specimen.

As someone already stated, the coarseness of the grain of the fabric embedded into the Micarta, referring to Canvas (coarser) or Linen (finer), is a good way to determine what the material is, at least.
 
Yep. People are either ig-nert or danged-liars. Never sure which.

I got stuck with a black canvas SJTAC a few years ago that I asked a seller on another forum REPEATEDLY if it was really green linen b/c it looked like canvas.

It was black canvas. I subsequently just sold the blade instead of trying to bother. I broke even so I was satisfied. But I agree, many people have not a clue - or are outright lying - about the blades they own sometimes.
 
Yes, my comments to the gentelman indicating to him it was Canvas Micarta were based on the coarseness of the fiber. The resin does seem to have a greenish tint which is possibly where the confusion lies (or I'm just picking up the green in the coating and thinking the resins have a greenish tint). Regardless, I'm still of the opinion it is Canvas and it sounds like the majority agree.

And yes, Snwbrdr202 is the one looking for a Ratweiler, so if anyone can help him out I'm sure he will appreciate it. Thanks for your comments everyone.

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Definitely black canvas! Look at the thickness of the fiber material. Linen is a much finer fiber. By the way, I wonder who that Ratweiler seeking gentleman is...
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Hey J, I think I recognize that green linen. But hey, I'm a little color blind, so I didn't know the Busse scales came in different colors! Boy, do I feel foolish.
 
After an enormous amount of help from Ken Lunde the past few hours, we believe these are indeed black canvas micarta handles. I have changed the description and want to thank Les_Sheldon for the heads up. My apologies, I stand corrected.
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