Some Taxus Answers

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I did a short search on Taxus to try to get to the bottom of things. Much of what I found was quite interesting. The term Taxus came from the Greek words, Toxon (bow) and Toxicon (poison). Today, most uses of Taxus concern its suitability as a landscape specimen. Many of us grew up with a yearly pruning of these shrubs as a chore, mainly T. cuspidata. Its native range is mainly in the temperate zone of the Northern Hemisphere. Europe, North America, and Asia, each had one or more species that were quite important to the native people. Former uses were where it became interesting. Historically, it was used as a poison, medicine, tools, weapons, etc. The wood is very tough, resistant to decay, and generally good looking.
Taxus baccata is the English yew of which the famous longbow came from. The largest specimen mentioned had a circumference of approximately 50'. Many of the largest, and oldest specimens are believed to have been planted by the Celts perhaps 2,000+ years ago as part of religious ceremonies. It's native range is from Britain to Northern Iran.
Taxus brevifolia was a very important plant to the various tribes of the Northwest U.S. and Canada. In several languages its name means "wedge plant." It was used for any purpose that required a strong, tough wood. Bows, spears, traps, eating utensils, paddles, digging sticks, etc. It also had important medicinal, and ceremonial uses as well. The wood was so highly regarded that it was used as a trade item with tribes outside its native range.
Taxus canadensis, due to its low, spreading growth habit does not appear to be as useful for tool manufacturing as other types. Still, it was a vital plant for a wide range of medicinal purposes. It was widely used as a medicine for rheumatism, arthritis, colds, fevers, etc. The Potawotomie even used it as a diuretic, for gonorrhea.
Taxus cuspidata, the Japanese yew, has a native range of N. Korea, China, and Japan. Its medicinal uses do not appear to be as varied as elsewhere. Still, there is a record of use as an antidiabetic medicine. It was also used in a wide variety of hard use items such as piles, foundations, clogs, chopsticks, etc. The record of the wood's use for bows goes all the way back to the Ainu, the indigenous people of Japan.
Taxus sumatrana is a variety that our friends in Nepal may be familiar with. Its range extends from Afghanistan to Taiwan. While no medicinal uses were listed, the wood was used in all applications where toughness was a primary need. Interestingly, the famous Hindu red dot was made by mixing crushed Taxus bark with oil.
Hopefully, you people will forgive me for leaving a few varieties out. I did not wish to make this post so long, but I did not realize that this plant was so important to so many, back in the day. Hopefully, I will be able to find a few well figured pieces of yew to make into knife handles. I should probably also look into bow construction one of these days. For those of you who are into the Ren Fair, Taxus baccata may still be commercially available in Europe for utensil making. Again, sorry about the length.
 
Hi Guys
I'm no botanist but do know a little about English war bows.They were seldom if ever made of English Yew it is entirely unsuitable for the task. The best bowstaves were made from Spanish Yew, and were imported bythe hundreds of thousands.Luxury goods were often taxed in the form of bow staves per ton of goods.
Phil
 
Prithee M'lord, if we made yew longbows would yew taxus?:rolleyes: (loud groan accompanies pun). By the way, many of the "mass produced" war bows were made of ash due to the aforementioned scarcity of serviceable yew in the British isles.

Sarge
 
Originally posted by truck
The short answer is nope. Yucca, and Taxus are not related.

As made clear by the different genus names. I just find it interesting that two beasts as different as a yew and a joshua tree have part of their name in common.
 
Fullplate, during the are of the longbow, English law required each community to grow so much yew - a "strategic commodity" in our parlance. Due to its poisonous nature, it was grown around churches an cemeteries (behind walls) rather than in the common lands where stock might get at it; hence the large yews often seen near country churches and cemeteries in England today.

The yew grown most often on our area (NE Ohio) is T. media "Hicksi," one of the most erect yews. It can be trimmed to a single leader. Interesting comment on the digestive system of deer, they eat it like candy.

Tom
 
Fullplate,
Using common names for plants can cause a lot of problems. I think that it's pretty safe to say that the Taxus indigenous to Europe is T. baccata. This is commonly called English Yew. Other than that, pretty much all species that grow to suitable dimensions seem to be suitable for use as bows.
 
Originally posted by Thomas Linton
Interesting comment on the digestive system of deer, they eat it like candy.

Tom

Like many of you, we have the same problem here. One novel solution was to use chicken wire shaped to the desired size of your bushes. The deer then nibbled off any branches sticking out, keeping everything nice and tidy:)

ps. Now that we've migrated onto deer, check out the Busse Forum for what happens to deer on runways:eek:
 
Hi Guys
This is starting to get interesring, however it is moving further and further away from the topic of kukris.If we are getting out of line please someone say so.Best scholarship says English Yew was unsuitable for bows due to the twisted nature of its grain. The law in England never insisted on Yews being planted in church yards to provide bowstaves, this custom is pre-Christian, although the point about the toxic nature of the plant is well made.Many other woods were used to produce munition grade bows , including Ash. In fact have used American Ash to make good bows and weapon hafts. The basic argument, however, is that Spanish Yew made the best bowstaves leading
to the disappearence of this tree in its homeland.If this discusion is to continue I feel we had better start attributing sources so that everyone is reading from the same book, so to speak.
Regards
Phil
 
Sounds good to me. I got my stuff off the Gymnosperm Database. I don't have time to check the address before I go to work so it will have to wait a few hours. I guess I'll also have to see if I can post a link. Read that older guy getting nervous:eek:
 
Hi Folks,
The oldest found spears,canoes & long bows occouring in England are nearly 100,000 years old & made of yew!

Most English yew is too misshapen to make bows fron due to thousands of years of man cutting the best of them, so that although they coppice they dont stay fertile, thus reducing the genetic pool for straight growing yews!

Occasional straight throwbacks do occur, I have seen several.

I have been pruning all twigs of one of these for the last 12 years to a hieght of 6.5ft.!
It was 1.5 in. in diameter when I started! Hopefully another 10 or 15 years & it will make a beutifull bow! I would imagine that when such thing were important pruning may have been carried on for generations!

The very best yew bows are from slow grown timber so the most sought after were imported stock {From C.1200 AD} & they were Norwegion!

Spanish mountain growth was more common But still highly sought after.

With English trees the North side is slowest grown, & shaddy positions also reduce growth.
Cheers!
Spiral
 
Originally posted by spiraltwista
Most English yew is too misshapen to make bows from due to thousands of years of man cutting the best of them, so that although they coppice they dont stay fertile, thus reducing the genetic pool for straight growing yews!

Occasional straight throwbacks do occur, I have seen several.

Cheers!
Spiral

Spiral I think this may be true of all the better bow woods. Osage Orange, aka Bois D'Arc is extremely twisted, usually. I saw a bow last year that was serpentine and yet very much usable!!!! It wasn't for sale.:(
On the other hand an acquaintance of mine who works for the City Parks Dept. found the straightest, knot free, Bois D'Arc about 8" in diameter and waited until the coldest day in February to cut it.
The wood didn't season all that long and I'm not sure what he did to keep it from splitting but whatever it was it worked!!!!
The bow he made is the absolute most perfect piece I've ever seen made from a single piece of wood!!!!
When he had finished it up to the point of getting ready to tiller the limbs he decided to string it up if possible and see if one end was going to need more than the other.
It was absolutely amazing!!!! The bow needed no tillering at all and is about an 80 pound draw!!!!
I could be very envious of that bow if I could draw it.:rolleyes: ;) :D

Another Bois D'Arc bow that was unusual is one that my cousin had that belonged to an old friend of ours. The best anyone can figure is that this bow is over 70 years old, maybe older!!!! It is made from two nearly identical pieces off the same end of the tree and is joined together with a piece of what looks like heavy stainless tubing that has been flattened on both sides to make the grip.
My cousin took a deer with it several years back. The bow now resides with its original family who are Creek or more properly Muscogee ndns.
 
Yvsa,
They sound "special" bows indeed!

I am sure your correct that this has genetic pool tampering probably happend to a number of the best bow woods, & probably other timbers that ancient man liked. I know that the straight clear trunks of Bog oak found in the fens, excead in length anything thats grows in England today. The best was used & not always with a thought for the futre either.

I guess Man has altered the habitat ever since he picked up a rock to use as a tool,& unfortuanatly its always at an ever increasing rate.

{I say while sat here in centraly heated enviroment throwing words into cyberspace!}

Spiral
 
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