Someone learn me on map reading.

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short story, I've been learning about GPS through my Fire department. I really enjoy it so far and plan to get a better unit then I have now(Garmin etrex). But, I have this sickness where being proficient with the GPS isn't enough. I mean, batteries can fail, it can get wet or just decide not to work. I want to learn how to read a topo map and find my position with a compass. I've read a little on wildwood survial, but it doesn't have much about maps.
any good links would be appriciated.

Thanks.
 
This is a broad area, and I doubt a series of posts will do more than confuse you.

Two good things:

1) Once you get the knack of it--and there isn't much to getting the knack--it's pretty simple to read a topo map.

2) What you're setting out to do is a VERY useful skill that will change the way you view maps and even look at landscapes.

Check out this site for a great introduction.

Basically, a topo map is a highly accurate map with contour lines all over it. Contour lines tell you a remarkable amount of information: the closer lines are together, the steeper the terrain; the farther apart they are, the more gentle the terrain.

Here are some things you can learn right away from topo maps:

1. How vertical distance affects total distance. On a regular map, the distance between two points is pretty simple to measure. A topo map can warn you that you need to add more miles to a trip just from all the up and down in between.

2. Where water flows and is likely to be found.

3. Here's a hill: what's the easiest way to climb it?

I know that many people first approaching topo maps are confused by the contours. I'd like to share a concept with you that made me instantly understand how they work.

We'll create a virtual topo map together.

Take an imaginary lump of clay and a bucket (I should point out that when I learned, we did this with real clay and water, but anyone can do this as a thought experiment).

Mold the lump of clay into a mountain, and place it dead center into the bucket.

Draw the outline of the base of the mountain on a sheet of paper.

Add one inch of water to the bucket.

Draw the outline of the "shoreline" on your sheet of paper, keeping the position the same.

Add a second inch of water to the bucket.

Draw *this* shoreline on your sheet of paper....

Keep adding an inch of water at a time, and drawing the new shoreline, until the mountain is completely covered.

The result? A topo map. You'll instantly see how steeper sides have closer lines, and how gentler slopes have lines spread further apart. The distance between each line represents one inch of water.

A topo map is identical: the distance between the lines is measured in vertical feet, not inches of water. But the concept is the same.

Here's a neat thing: you can reverse the process I described, and you can create a three-dimensional clay model of a mountain with a little bit of patience and a topo map.

The trick is to start doing this in your head, of course, and not working with clay and buckets!

As you advance in your comfort, you'll start to see how the legend works to give you even more data (hashed lines represent depressions below sea level, if you want to anticipate where water can form, structures and buildings, etc.).

Because the USGS has standardized topo maps, you can make some simple rulers at home (or buy them at better equipped sporting good stores) that allow you to take very accurate measurements, plan waypoints, etc.

I salute your decision not to rely on GPS alone. I think GPS is the coolest thing since sliced bread...but GPS really shines when you understand basic cartography and navigation principles.
 
Its pretty simple. Access a topo map of an area you are familiar with. Look at the map and read the scale for distances. Many will state that a map is 50,000 to 1, or perhaps as detailed as 25,000 to 1. This means that a map with a scale of 50,000 to 1 works out to one centimeter on the map equals 50,000 centimeters=0.5 kms (sorry I do not work with miles and inches, but it would work the same 1inch=50,000 inches) . In centimeters I can easily work out distances between points. For example 4 centimeters equals 2 kilometers.

For heading use your compass, or the sun. Grid lines run north/south and east/west. For most aplications I simply use the sun and time of day. Look for some familiar landmark such as a bay of a lake or river, hill and such. Determine where you are and where you want to go. Estimate direction and it should be enough. Read the map for landmarks (hills- look at the lines of elevation) rivers, ponds. Make a mental image of them and watch the land as you travel.

Remember that magnetic north is different from grid north on the maps. Many maps give you a declination which is a mesurement of error in degrees between grid north and magnetic north. This changes each year as the magnetic north is constantly on the move, so check the date of the math. The newer the map, the more reliable the declination angle.
 
Bufford posts excellent points.

Also, no knowledge of the metric system is required to use topo maps...but I can assure you that if you know your metric system, you can use topo maps much faster since there's no conversion.

By the way, pop in your home address here: http://www.topozone.com/

You can get a pretty good idea of what your home surroundings look like in "topo view."

I guess I can't promise that topo maps are the be-all end-all of cartography, but you'll never be satisfied with road maps again....:)
 
Bufford posts excellent points.

Also, no knowledge of the metric system is required to use topo maps...but I can assure you that if you know your metric system, you can use topo maps much faster since there's no conversion.

By the way, pop in your home address here: http://www.topozone.com/

You can get a pretty good idea of what your home surroundings look like in "topo view."

I guess I can't promise that topo maps are the be-all end-all of cartography, but you'll never be satisfied with road maps again....:)

awsome. Metric is no problem. I prefer it really.
 
Facinating! and good tips fellas. I kinda/sorta knew some of this already from my fishing obsession days (were I used to make my own lures and kept a fishing jouirnal). I used Hydrographic maps then, basicly contour maps of underwater structure. I still don't really know how to use a map and compass effectively. I'll try to learn more this summer.
 
I still don't really know how to use a map and compass effectively. I'll try to learn more this summer.

My goal is when the GPS quits for one reason or another to let out a couple good loud curse words, maybe throw or break something. But be able to get out the compass and map and figure it all out that way.

Plus it will be handy knowledge to have when all is shut down because of the zombies.
 
Here is a pretty decent site for use of map & compass together: http://www.compassdude.com .

Another nice site that covers the often forgotten relationship between a GPS and a paper map is http://www.maptools.com . This site focuses on using UTM coordinates to transfer coordinates from the paper map to GPS, and vise versa.

There are two schools of thought when it comes to taking a bearing from a paper map. Each has advantages & disadvantages:

1. Align the compass with the direction of desired travel and then orient the compass' meridian lines to N/S longitude lines on the map (whether printed or draw ahead of time). Follow the given bearing.

2. Orient the map to north by setting the compass to 0 degrees, placing the compass on the edge of the map and then rotating the whole package until the the needle is boxed. Then to get a bearing align the compass with the direction of desired travel, and box the compass' needle (put the red in the shed). Follow the given bearing. This method is used in the Triangulation section of the compassdude site.
 
Be Expert With Map And Compass by Bjorn Kjellstrom is recognized by most orienteers as a good source. Is there an orienteering club in your area? It's a great way to get some exercise and work on your land navigation skills.
 
Here is a pretty decent site for use of map & compass together: http://www.compassdude.com .

Another nice site that covers the often forgotten relationship between a GPS and a paper map is http://www.maptools.com . This site focuses on using UTM coordinates to transfer coordinates from the paper map to GPS, and vise versa.

that second one sounds like exactly what I'm looking for after I get the basics down. thanks


I appreciate everyones help, I've got my reading cut out for me for a week at least.
 
1) Once you get the knack of it--and there isn't much to getting the knack--it's pretty simple to read a topo map.

I thought it was a good post except for this statement about reading a topo and land nav. I tend to think that the basics are easy but really being any good at it takes practice.
 
I tend to think that the basics are easy but really being any good at it takes practice.
Let me clarify, in hopes that this raises your estimation! The basics of reading a topo map are easy to learn.

The basics of land navigation, well, not so much. That's definitely a learn-by-doing.

Naturally, there are many uses to topographic maps beyond land navigation that the average person can use.

I bet that didn't make any more sense, did it?
 
Let me clarify, in hopes that this raises your estimation! The basics of reading a topo map are easy to learn.

The basics of land navigation, well, not so much. That's definitely a learn-by-doing.

Naturally, there are many uses to topographic maps beyond land navigation that the average person can use.

I bet that didn't make any more sense, did it?

sort of:D
I guess I just have a hard time thinking that someone would want to learn how to read a map and then not want to go do land nav
 
I guess I just have a hard time thinking that someone would want to learn how to read a map and then not want to go do land nav
Sure! Landscapers and surveyors absolutely depend on them. Engineers use them when assessing clearance heights around nearby structures. Architects use them when estimating how a building will blend into its terrain. And I've used them not so much for navigation but for planning easier ways up hills.

I think we can assume JackBauer24, though, wants/needs the land nav aspect, though!
 
I think we can assume JackBauer24, though, wants/needs the land nav aspect, though!

absolutely. Up until now I've really only done small backpacking trips on trails or places I already knew very well. I plan on slowly and gradually expanding where and how long I go for. I can't stand to not be prepared either, and to me being prepared is having an idea of the big picture, plus a good map and the ability to use it properly.
 
There's obviously plenty you can do, starting with the places you know best. That'll give you a really good but easy way to perfect the skills.

If you're super-serious, though, Mycroft's suggestion about finding an orienteering club is the best bet: not only will they be happy to show you a million tricks to doing it right, they'll also challenge you with all sorts of safe, sensible, practical, yet nutty activities that will push your skill all the way. I say super-serious, because these activities will be what you remember in an emergency.
 
If there isn't an orienteering club in your area, see if there is a search and rescue organization. The S&R here requires you to complete a fairly thorough (and free) map reading/land nav/orienteering course before they'll turn you loose. The knowledge is great, and if you stay with S&R you can gain great experience.
 
If there isn't an orienteering club in your area, see if there is a search and rescue organization. The S&R here requires you to complete a fairly thorough (and free) map reading/land nav/orienteering course before they'll turn you loose. The knowledge is great, and if you stay with S&R you can gain great experience.

Well, I'm a firefighter and there is a search and rescue team here. One of their guys is teaching the GPS course now. I'm going to ask him tonight about some classes possibly. All this class is doing is making me more interested. Watching most of these guys learn a GPS unit is like watching a monkey.....well... using a gps unit. We're moving kinda slow lol.
 
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